Ainran still burning - PV clean up crew cleans PV

[Radiant_Maelstrom]

The question is does such skill is even needed for someone that possess bug knowledge of both pre-combat as well as in-combat exploits? I do not know about anyone else but I certainly do not want the hearthland ruled by individuals that think only combat knowledge and exploits matters.

What worries me is that I fear that such disregards of the customs and disrespect of could mean players here are not so hesitant to exploit and commit foul play when the field is not in their favor.

PS: I am not going to point fingers at anyone here, if they have done it, they know what I mean. <.<

[Federico]

The question is does such skill is even needed for someone that possess bug knowledge of both pre-combat as well as in-combat exploits? I do not know about anyone else but I certainly do not want the hearthland ruled by individuals that think only combat knowledge and exploits matters.

They're as solid as a battering ram... erm.

Strong but without taking care of it, you won't get very far.

[burgingham]

Just to make sure. I don't want this to derail into who is the bigger buguser thread or who broke the game more.

I just meant to state that Ainran was never known for town and relationship management being their strong suits.

[painhertz]

Anyone else notice that ever since the RAGE entered into Valten's veins he's turned into a retard on the forums? I'd almost be willing to guess that the current poster is not the same guy who posted as Valten earlier in world whatever the current iteration is.

Either that or he's gone full retard.

I think it was when I insulted his bass playing skills about a week ago. Broke the poor boys heart. Also, so Mark has a NEW internet girlfriend? Who is this Nicolette that you are speaking of?

(My apologies to Lady Goo, I REALLY was away from the game for almost 2 months and though you were still his Lady Faire....)

[painhertz]

Addition: As superior as Ainrans combat skills may be they never had anyone capable to deal with politics and/or management.

In a not broken game that would have kept them at the caveman level they had in w1/2/3. But now only PvP skills (and bug knowledge ^^) count, so that made them survive for so long. Dunno if this dramatic turn of events can damage them permanently, but it shows the incompetence within their leadership ranks.

No offense guys, you are mostly kids so you are not supposed to be capable of dealing with managerial decisions, but it then exactly leads to chaotic situations like the one at hand.

Hey hey now. I am no longer friends or even friendly with Ainran but I WILL say that you are incorrect here, having raided with them in the past, I will say that Ainrans dominance this world is due in much larger part to teamwork, coordination over skype and the fact that they allied with Dis. I'm not sure why Valten has taken to calling himself the PvP champ when pretty much everyone knows that Nao would toy with him and mop the floor with him were they not allies.... I'd also give Eric or Red fair odds against him.

[burgingham]

Well, I wouldn't say combat teamwork equals managing skills when it comes to economy and politics. We just finished a long discussion in skype about how only combat matters to achieve superiority in HnH these days and this shows exactly that.

As good as Nao may be as a fighter, he couldn't even supply a single cow with enough food due to his lazyness when it comes to all other tasks in game. That goes for most Ainran folks.

[painhertz]

Well, I wouldn't say combat teamwork equals managing skills when it comes to economy and politics. We just finished a long discussion in skype about how only combat matters to achieve superiority in HnH these days and this shows exactly that.

As good as Nao may be as a fighter, he couldn't even supply a single cow with enough food due to his lazyness when it comes to all other tasks in game. That goes for most Ainran folks.

Hence allying with Dis and ensuring a continued supply of goods was a great piece of statecraft. See what I mean?

I was going to make an analogy involving likening Ainran's relationships to Pandemonium and Dis to the Pilot Fishs' relationship to sharks but it all kind of falls apart at some point.

[Radiant_Maelstrom]

Except Ainran broke all ties with Dis, their once suppliers.

[painhertz]

Doesn't matter anymore. i imagine they have plenty of loot/gear/ and outside suppliers to tide them over for the rest of World 6 and/or they simply don;t give a shit and will go out in a blaze of glory and stop playing until World 7/haven 2.0. Either is about as likely.

[Tonkyhonk]

@joco,
how about start convincing your people before telling everyone how good your ass-licking skill is?

Why am I even being brought up I haven't said anything in many pages? Nor do I really care
Also I'm not a leader of anything, I have no people. Another thing though, how am I an ass-licker if I'm currently an active member of Dis? Really? What's to gain from it I'm already here.

I surrendr. Where do i put my pants?

very trusting troll. i had overestimated you to be able to talk it out with the both sides. dissapointing.

I think it was when I insulted his bass playing skills about a week ago. Broke the poor boys heart.

dont think so. lot earlier than that.