Plp played this for the uniqueness and traditional gameplay, not the "quality" of the gfx but for the quality idea, despite where it came form. However, you are correct NOW, as the ridiculous price now demands a different kind of comparison in both the definition of quality and the behavior of the origin of the idea. If loyalty was rewarded in the way it was, only a fool would give money for it and expect any less in the future. Doesn't matter how long he' played or anyone else, what they got in return and what they didn't get in return was all the same regardless of 1 day or 7 years.jorb wrote:Hi new friend with one post to your account. How long have you been playing H&H for?Shiriko wrote:Compare this game to any other sub based game out there, and the quality doesn't even come close.
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Russaria
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Russaria
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If you want to go through all that bother, I suppose that's one way to give them some cannon fodder.APXEOLOG wrote:Just make 7 accounts and play each one every day. 7 hours per day is pretty good.
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Ants
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This. There's nothing wrong with wanting to earn money, it's just that the shop and the prices could benefit from being changed a bit.Grable wrote:I don't think anyone is objecting you guys earning money with the game, it's just that a lot of us think there are better ways (for both sides, I believe) to earn money, without limiting gametime.
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Illumina
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Everyone keeps mentioning WoW or other large product and I feel like stating what should be the obvious fact.
They aren't comparing Haven to those other games because the other games are blatantly "better" but that they provide an immensely better service for a marginal difference in price.
Will a paying player get his items fixed if a server error wipes them out? Can he expect to be safe from roaming bands of bots? Does he have to tolerate a rude twelve year old spamming every racial slur he ever heard from his daddy?
Why is Haven worth this price in particular?
They aren't comparing Haven to those other games because the other games are blatantly "better" but that they provide an immensely better service for a marginal difference in price.
Will a paying player get his items fixed if a server error wipes them out? Can he expect to be safe from roaming bands of bots? Does he have to tolerate a rude twelve year old spamming every racial slur he ever heard from his daddy?
Why is Haven worth this price in particular?
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jorb
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No. No. No, he can attack and kill them.Illumina wrote:Will a paying player get his items fixed if a server error wipes them out? Can he expect to be safe from roaming bands of bots? Does he have to tolerate a rude twelve year old spamming every racial slur he ever heard from his daddy?
That last part of the above is pretty clutch, I think.Why is Haven worth this price in particular?
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Teacwr
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Well, for me as for Russian citizen with much lower income than EU guys and working scheme that is based on "projects" not classical 8 hour shifts (for example - one working week and then 1,5 months of nothing or it can be like one free week and 2 or 3 months working with no free time) it's questionable to me to purchase subscription for whole year and looks comfortable to purchase some playing time - 240 hours for 3 or 4$ for example and monthly subscriptions sometimes when i can afford it to myself according to my free time
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MannyBlaise
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I have no problems to paying the game, but I'm someone who cant pay using an online pay method soo maybe in the future there can be game cards or maybe even go up on steam to make it easier on a few players like me... Yes.. no.. maybe

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jorb
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We are looking at a more flexible payment provider, indeed.
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Serbuch
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Did you think about selling PLAY TIME ?jorb wrote:We are looking at a more flexible payment provider, indeed.
IMHO
I think if you care not only about money and about your community too - you should think about selling play time in portions of 24\48\96\192 (etc) of play time.
Selling subscription for a month > its beneficial only to you not the community...
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Orcling
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jorb wrote:We are looking at a more flexible payment provider, indeed.
