Hiring someone to kill someone else

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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby ElGato » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:12 am

Garfy wrote:I don't suspect he is overly strong. I had 55 melee combat at the time as well as low ql bronze armor, and his first attack did not do any damage to me (nor damage my equipment). My attacks could drain around 20-25% of his blue bar.

Yeah that's the work of the most recent combat update :)
I suspected you had around that from a few formulas I made up.
Pretty weird that someone with 8 times your combat skill can't hit you on the first try eh?
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby morbious » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:17 am

Dataslycer wrote:The mine was actually Gato's to begin with but it has not been used for a while and the gate broke down and someone build over the gate (the name of minily or some similar. This individual gave a key (copy?) to the village that gorfy and asleep was inn speaking about sharing the mine.

Gato discovered that the CR to his mine was destroyed and upon arrival, the gate has been replaced. Gato had arrived to their village in intending to try to talk it out and the first individual that was spoken to was gorfy. I' not sure what gorfy is like even though someone that knows him describe him as stubborn sometimes. Gato say that gorfy was being unreasonable and snappy, causing him tension and aggravation. Gato killed him. Gato also KO'ed asleep (note, had he had intent in killing you, asleep, he would have just punched again to do so, also why is your HHP so low).

Anyhow, he had spoken with two individuals (I will not release the name unless they tell me it's OK or post here, I'm going to ask if it is OK for me to post their name here) that was friends with the village and I believe a peaceful resolution came out. All in all, it was a conflict that was rather unfortunate.


Ok, killing in a moment of rage is one thing, although not perfect as you admit. Taking our few meager things we honestly traded to acquire, as recompense for attempted misappropriation of what's yours, even though reeking of abandonment, ok, I can kinda see that, even though isn't the loss of life enough payment?

But then destroying the cupboards storing what you don't loot so they just vanish on the ground. That's just asinine.

Why the fucking cupboards man. Why. The. Cupboards.

I'm just saying, it's not like all that happened here was a killing in a moment of rage. It's some cold shit.

Also, the gate was preexisting, we didn't build it. It was likely a member of that village that built it, since it was built before the CR. I don't know the whole story of that gate although we were given the key to the gate. (I hope I'm not bungling the terminology, since I'm fairly new, but that's what I was under the impression it was. The gate was definitely there before the whatever was destroyed)

I appreciate that things are being done to smooth it out but I don't feel under any obligation to butter up what happened. Seems to me like some serious game-rage "YOU FUCK WITH ME!!! I sHIT THINGS UP FOR YOUR VILLAGE!", then coming around to realize that you weren't just playing your game, you were also fucking up other people's game in an overboard manner. So I appreciate that Gato came around to see the light (I think), but what happened was completely uncalled for in my opinion.

Although I guess, might makes right, in which case I guess we're just cheap whores to be used as please, although Broholm has come out with some very nice mates who've been very fair and pleasant even though they could just steamroll whatever they want out of us if they wanted to.
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby Garfy » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:27 am

morbious wrote:But then destroying the cupboards storing what you don't loot so they just vanish on the ground. That's just asinine.

Why the fucking cupboards man. Why. The. Cupboards.


He destroyed everything, not just cupboards.

He destroyed like 8 cupboards and a large chest, 2 wine racks, 2 beds, a table, a chair, a loom, a wine press, a spinning wheel, 5 barrels (200 liters of vinegar, 100+ liters of water), a curding tub.

I am pretty sure he also went into our mine (the tin mine) and ate the cheese.


He also did not just kill me once, but twice. As soon as I relogged with a new character, he just went in for the kill again without saying anything.
He was also trying to kill several other people but couldn't get to them because they were hidden behind a palisade.

Also, I was not the unreasonable one. I simply asked him to prove the mine was his, which he did not do. Before anything else could be said or done, he started attacking and then went on his rampage and destroyed/stole everything he could.
If anything, he was the unreasonable one, not me.

Edit: Turns out, he also went around and looted a bunch of stuff from people who were totally innocent and unrelated to this. Again taking what he wanted, and destroying everything else.
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby Mervin » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:37 am

8 cupboards? He destroyed every single one in my house, two of them filled with cavebulbs, one of them contained 12 pearls that I had foraged myself!

My claim was outside the rest of the village palisade, the things inside were all mine.

Why?
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby Avu » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:16 pm

What did you expect as proof a certificate of ownership? I don't like how gato handled it but this is HH after all the dude with the biggest sword (ranger bow) is always right...
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby Panel9 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:41 pm

At least knowing the name of the village claim it was on would have helped, really.
Russian doesn't even use the same set the characters as German or English, and having another Sodom buddy vouch for him still doesn't lift my skepticism.

Interesting thread and all, but are there any plans for compensation?

At least give those thumbles and forge rings back, if he took them?

Or was this just a senseless raid? Senseless mostly because no word has been lost over the key, I assume he never even got it?
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby barracuda546 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:51 pm

I enjoy how sodom was saying AD shouldnt kill people just because they are stronger. And here is sodom saying "well we are stronger so were right"
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby Avu » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:08 pm

Look this has little to do with sodom, gato acted on his own. My comment was more of a general description on how things are in HH. I mean bitch all you want sorry excuses for noobs that you are but you'd truly not want a raid and kill no excuses no nothing Sodom or AD.

Also it's not Sodom saying it's me saying. To be honest I'm tired of all this noob drama fucking get your act together I mean palisades? and you thought that would protect you? And he got the name wrong? Boohoohoo I'm sure he felt bad about it when he was wiping his sword of your noob blood. Pfft.
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby Sotsa » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:09 pm

barracuda546 wrote:I enjoy how sodom was saying AD shouldnt kill people just because they are stronger. And here is sodom saying "well we are stronger so were right"


Mineville, now this.
Also why would you let gato in, Sodom. He frequently gets too angry and does stupid shit, stuff that might soil your reputation.


Avu wrote:Look this has little to do with sodom, gato acted on his own. My comment was more of a general description on how things are in HH. I mean bitch all you want sorry excuses for noobs that you are but you'd truly not want a raid and kill no excuses no nothing Sodom or AD..

And yet he hides his HF behind sodom walls, no?
Before you take insult to this post, keep in mind that I am simply a warrior of truth.
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Re: Hiring someone to kill someone else

Postby ardjun » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:33 pm

This is pretty serious stuff and it puts really bad light on Sodom.
You guys say that Elgato is from Sodom but ElGato said he came there alone, not as a member of it. Which is pretty much bullshit, he's representing the town he came from. Reason is that Sodom would protect him if anything happened to him.

If you want to keep a good reputation you have, you should compensate those guys.
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