Hired/Ordered?

[Tacheron]

Omg, again this, Kaz - you really are a shit stirrer, aren't you? Drop it, dude, you think too highly of yourself - I'd not waste my game time on trying to kill you let alone getting someone else to do it since that would probably take even more time to explain.

Dog - if you don't believe me, then fine. You're entitled to your own opinions, mislead as you may be - although you should know me by now (remember me offering the resources I knew about when we first met, out of a gesture of good will? Well, THAT's me.)

I've already said everything in a thread before, so did Dany and a bunch of other peaceful villagers. As far as I know (and I was not involved directly in anything, I've been seldom online during that time due to my college obligations) Kazur got killed AFTER he left the village (instead of sooner, which we could've done easily but we're a PEACEFUL village) because in THAT time he was bothering Broghk in PM's and being generally rude to KV in the chat's they've been having. But since his death was by summons, any other point is moot. He is a THIEF and got killed for it, anything else is speculation. Oh, and I went by that village you made, a few days after you died, Kazur, and I found the sword you stole from Shekera while you were still allowed on her plot - THIEF.

All in all, stop fucking bothering us, if you can't play without shit stirring,go take a dump and stick your head in it, then flush.

Have a nice day.

[Onionfighter]

Delamore did it.

[Airleas]

Sneaky sneaky Dela.

[NaoWhut]

It REALLy was me... i got offered things
for killing you afterwords btw but didn't
accept them, didn't even know it was
you, I was just bored. I am death, i die
and i share it with others, you're welcome.

[Chakravanti]

Told you so.

[DatOneGuy]

Dog - if you don't believe me, then fine. You're entitled to your own opinions, mislead as you may be - although you should know me by now (remember me offering the resources I knew about when we first met, out of a gesture of good will? Well, THAT's me.)

Again the problems that really bother me are:
1)King V said that he had part in the death in a chat we had ingame, and said that he 'made sure kazur was dead' because 'he shows many faces to everyone, no one knows what he's actually like and he can't be trusted'
2)You said to me that 'Kazur lied to Dany' and that was motivation enough for you to have part in it, that he 'made Dany believe his lies' which is a problem because he never brought Dany into it, I couldn't find you online so I asked Dany to relay a message.
3)General hostility against Kazur always boils back to a few points
A)He 'ruined Rothgards name' by never using Rothgard's name but instead just posting as an alt that he demanded to know a village's mine type, if anything you guys made that public by posting those chatlogs
B)I don't really believe that 'he was bad all along' crap, if he was you should have kicked him out long ago, you kept him there, that at least says something, either you couldn't prove what he was doing (because 'shock': he may not have done it)
C)There are no actual facts ever being relayed, it's always a 'can we move along' which is typical of someone who is guilty.

Yes I'm interested in everything involved here, people called Lake an assassin and whether he takes offense to that or not, Broghk attacked first, without reason, the 'tipping point' for this problem with Kazur which led up to his death and exile was this whole 'he wanted to assassinate broghk', broghk really thought this as I told Kazur to have Broghk message me (As you see there, he posted a snippet of the conversation not the whole thing ; P.S. I don't trust people that keep logs of ingame conversations and post them without the other person's consent, if we had a 'private message' it was 'private'), and he stated that he wanted to kill Kazur because he had someone try to assassinate me (the wrong term btw, important people get assassinated, regular people just get killed), he had everyone in the town screaming kill kill kill trying to kill kazur, if they were strong enough to break palisades (lol but he wasn't) they probably would have just killed him instead of the waiting for King V's decision.

What happened past that with King V's decision is what's blurry, but a lot of nasty words were said by both you and King V on the subject, even when I asked, doing nothing but badmouthing Kazur, for what? Before that he was no problem as far as I knew with any of you, and all of a sudden guy is public enemy #1? Sounds like a lot of bullshit.

It REALLy was me... i got offered things
for killing you afterwords btw but didn't
accept them, didn't even know it was
you, I was just bored. I am death, i die
and i share it with others, you're welcome.

Well that covers part of it

[Airleas]

The only thing I am really able to comment on is point A.

While yes, he was using an alt account (on the runestone), if he was leaving stones on "Kazur" which seemed to be the case, if he left a tres scent, they could've traced it back to Rothgard. Not saying this is what happened, but it could be a possibility. This may have resulted in someone coming to the village wall and speaking with someone inside about the wonderful runestone left on their door step.

As for the runestone messages in general, he happened to leave a couple in Rothgard itself, saying if anyone messed with him/his stuff, they would mysteriously disappear. Not exactly the most friendly message to leave in general.


This is my general understanding of this particular part anyway.

[joojoo1975]

Dog - if you don't believe me, then fine. You're entitled to your own opinions, mislead as you may be - although you should know me by now (remember me offering the resources I knew about when we first met, out of a gesture of good will? Well, THAT's me.)

Again the problems that really bother me are:
1)King V said that he had part in the death in a chat we had ingame, and said that he 'made sure kazur was dead' because 'he shows many faces to everyone, no one knows what he's actually like and he can't be trusted'
2)You said to me that 'Kazur lied to Dany' and that was motivation enough for you to have part in it, that he 'made Dany believe his lies' which is a problem because he never brought Dany into it, I couldn't find you online so I asked Dany to relay a message.
3)General hostility against Kazur always boils back to a few points
A)He 'ruined Rothgards name' by never using Rothgard's name but instead just posting as an alt that he demanded to know a village's mine type, if anything you guys made that public by posting those chatlogs
B)I don't really believe that 'he was bad all along' crap, if he was you should have kicked him out long ago, you kept him there, that at least says something, either you couldn't prove what he was doing (because 'shock': he may not have done it)
C)There are no actual facts ever being relayed, it's always a 'can we move along' which is typical of someone who is guilty.

Yes I'm interested in everything involved here, people called Lake an assassin and whether he takes offense to that or not, Broghk attacked first, without reason, the 'tipping point' for this problem with Kazur which led up to his death and exile was this whole 'he wanted to assassinate broghk', broghk really thought this as I told Kazur to have Broghk message me (As you see there, he posted a snippet of the conversation not the whole thing ; P.S. I don't trust people that keep logs of ingame conversations and post them without the other person's consent, if we had a 'private message' it was 'private'), and he stated that he wanted to kill Kazur because he had someone try to assassinate me (the wrong term btw, important people get assassinated, regular people just get killed), he had everyone in the town screaming kill kill kill trying to kill kazur, if they were strong enough to break palisades (lol but he wasn't) they probably would have just killed him instead of the waiting for King V's decision.

What happened past that with King V's decision is what's blurry, but a lot of nasty words were said by both you and King V on the subject, even when I asked, doing nothing but badmouthing Kazur, for what? Before that he was no problem as far as I knew with any of you, and all of a sudden guy is public enemy #1? Sounds like a lot of bullshit.

1. we're going to have to wait till KV comes online for that. i'll not speak for him.

2.about the danny thing? may i direct you to this post(thisjnnl's post of him dieing viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11317&start=70 talking about page 8, 5th post down?

3. a. Kaz never ruined anything cause we were upfront of it all. By me posting the chatlogs, if those people were active and was wonderin who put the stone there. they would see we do NOT tolerate that kinda thing. A Peaceful village doesn't like greifing/ganking/raiding. b. We were too forgiving. he had a merriad of 2nd tries but in the end. your right, we should had kicked him after the he screwed up after a second chance. lesson learned c. we want to just forget about the whole bad time. that makes us guilty? come on man, whatever. and actual facts. how many screenies do u need to see? how many peeps need to come in here and tell you Kaz was bad. Tell you what dog, get all the peeps in here telling the H&H community how i strongarm them and how i manupulate them please. since you know so many.

about you telling kazur to tell me to mssg u, i mssgd u on my own(Kaz never told me anything). and yes i will post screenshots cause that is the TRUTH. which shines very brightly in a room full of BULLSHIT. I now wished i would had screenshotted our entire conversation. For now on when anything Slightly political happens, i will do just that. cause a man's word means little in a mmo, but screenshots are worth a 1000 words. if you don't like that. i'm sorry. But ever sence the kaz incident, i've been nothing but mouth bashed by you. and for what m8. I STILL have not said a cross word about you. Am I wrong. then post the bloody screenshots or forums posts to prove me wrong so i can appologize to you.


Bottom Line DatOneGuy: If you think Kaz was so horribly wronged and was the victim, then get him into your village.

[Sarchi]

Wait, Nao is confessing to killing Ka-zur? That isn't what I heard. I've personally gotten a confession from another player.

[rye130]

Wait, Nao is confessing to killing Ka-zur? That isn't what I heard. I've personally gotten a confession from another player.

Just as everyone wants to be batman, everyone wants to be a killer.