Attn: Bottleneck folks

[Jackard]

Well that key must of come from somewhere and if this no chance in hell fellow had none and it was indeed from the previous raid why the hell didn't you replace your gates? I mean you got people you started shit with and never made a deal half a supergrid away and you keep your old gates? That seems rather stupid. I though the goons were smarter than that.

And really if all you ever wanted to do was farm in peace carebear style you could have done what you did the last map sabinati guaranteeing goons will behave. This did not happen either because of internal politics or because you wanted revenge either way is no-ones fault but yours.

You must have missed the part where I said they exiled all of their warriors!

[Avu]

Good thing you let everyone know that.



Oh wait...

[sabinati]

not everyone needed to know that, and in fact, it would have made us a target for other people if we had.

[Spiff]

This really just breaks down to "Bottleneck wanted to fuck goons and were willing to create any excuse to do so." It's like that's all fine and dandy, but c'mon, just be honest about it.

[Onionfighter]

Ok, here is another part of the story.

I tracked two people from recent murders in Gangband and from south of Xanadu to Xanadu's silver mine. We then broke into the silver mine, and killed one of the perpetrators, who had a keyring with three keys: one of which said "Xanadu mine". I wanted to see if these people were part of Xanadu.

We still distrusted Xanadu since we last raided them, with all the bitter back and forth, and having never come to any formal peace agreement. As mentioned earlier, peace terms were offered, but none were agreed to. We also had heard that Sabinati had left Xanadu, so there was nobody I knew from Xanadu to contact. We didn't know anyone had been kicked out, or really anything about what was going on within Xanadu. That said, I can say now that what happened was a huge mistake, and I bear a large part of the responsibility.

Though after the fact I realized what a tenuous connection the keys were (the murderers could have kept the keys secret from Xanadu), I have just tried to open the Xanadu gates using those keys, and they do not work. The problem is that when I tried Xanadu's gate, I had keyrings taken from the previous raid. This was a mistake, and I shouldn't have had those on me. I had mistakenly assumed that the gates had been replaced, since I saw rams next to them shortly after the first raid.

The bottom line is this: we should not have raided you, and I apologize for this.

[sabinati]

oh so gangband and "south of xanadu" are in your supergrid now...? or did you decide to become world police after all?

[Onionfighter]

I happen to care about what happens to other people. That is why I made the above post. When BN claimed D4, we were not saying we would never leave our supergrid.

[sabinati]

so, world police, then

[Sotsa]

Ro, ro til fiskeskjær
mange fisker får vi der:
En til far og en til mor
en til søster og en til bror
Og to til den som fisken dro
og det var vesle ..........

E: well, you did allready say 'sorry' but you killed a bunch of guys.

[NaoWhut]

That's interesting.