Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

[L0ckAndL0ad]

thx for your help

I have also sent some info about our village to Chakravanti via PM.

[johnsmith]

Keep deleting my posts

Sodom, datoneguy, burg, and friends.

It doesn't and never will change the fact that you guys are hiding the truth about the "Diplomacy".

Simply put you can't even handle dealing with the truth of your previous history's which are amongst all of your previous posts way back from the first world.

I will tell you that this effort on the wolf in sheep clothing diplomacy is not going to work. Go read the Russian forums.

and final word, you can't run from the fact that in r/l you guys are really pathetic.

[sabinati]

look man there's a reason i just moved 3 pages of bullshit out of this thread, and it's the same reason i moved your recruiting thread to hel.

now stop making a fool out of yourself in this thread or you get a ban.

everyone else: stop responding in kind, you should all know better by now.

[Zamte]

I'm not sure how much help it will be, but there is an entire village of Russian players living just east across the mountain from Nowa Kodekzia. They're run by a player named Mex, who speaks English, though it is a bit rough. They've always been friendly to us, and seem perfectly content to run their village in peace. Might be worth a shot paying them a visit and trying to get into contact with him. I know you've got a sign to us so it would be a short trip.

[johnsmith]

Sabinati,

Thanks for putting the recruitment post back up, however you might want to take down the insult accusing me of making a fool of myself as well.

I too have a few Russian village's near me, and for this diplomacy issue which is relevant I hope the ban is not applied, I wanted to point out why Port Eryie has not been plagued by violence, where as some people around here may have been.

I have directly spoken with a representative from the Russian's. It appears the perception from the Russians is exactly what I had said previously.

I treat them with respect, I trade with them honestly, I say hi to stranger's without "running away in fear" ( if I die, oh well, its just a game there will always be rouge players) I keep Port Eryie up with progressively better products, I share the surrounding resources, and I do not put myself on a pedestal proclaiming myself to be superior, I also assist people in the area with whatever resources they need to get started without question, nor with a demand of anything in return. I do what I can to help make the game better for everyone.

Unfortunately, because of the flip flop of "roles" people have played throughout the history of Haven and Hearth there is no way for them to ascertain the real motive behind some of these negotiations from these very same people and those associated with them. They read the forum's, the recruitment thread for Port Eryie (as an example), and some feel that the olive branch you are extending is not real. They have dealt with me, have seen me play, have interacted with me, and then they see what you say.

They do feel the need to protect themselves from this ( a "forked tongue" in native American lingo ), therefore, they have done so just like Sodom has done. They eliminate any perceived threat or perceived threat that is brought to "their area's. Do you blame them?

( and lets not even go into the Hatfield and Makoy(?) feud from the old American lore scenario,..... revenge for those of you who don't know the old feud)

Not one act of violence from the Russians I know in the "troubled area of the North" was not without a good cause.

So in order for any "Diplomacy" to actually work please keep these things in mind.

oh yea, i forgot one thing in this sandbox game so brilliantly crafted. In order for Sodom role playing this map to be the "good guys" rooting out the bad players.....oh my gosh, there will always have to be "bad guys"

Can anyone say Dictatorship?

Or am I just noobish and full of faggotry?

If you never see another post you will know I have been banned

[Potjeh]

You're talking out of your ass about things you know nothing of, and hijacking a thread. Cease and desist.

[juhubert]

Sabinati,

Thanks for putting the recruitment post back up, however you might want to take down the insult accusing me of making a fool of myself as well.

I too have a few Russian village's near me, and for this diplomacy issue which is relevant I hope the ban is not applied, I wanted to point out why Port Eryie has not been plagued by violence, where as some people around here may have been.

I have directly spoken with a representative from the Russian's. It appears the perception from the Russians is exactly what I had said previously.

I treat them with respect, I trade with them honestly, I say hi to stranger's without "running away in fear" ( if I die, oh well, its just a game there will always be rouge players) I keep Port Eryie up with progressively better products, I share the surrounding resources, and I do not put myself on a pedestal proclaiming myself to be superior, I also assist people in the area with whatever resources they need to get started without question, nor with a demand of anything in return. I do what I can to help make the game better for everyone.

Unfortunately, because of the flip flop of "roles" people have played throughout the history of Haven and Hearth there is no way for them to ascertain the real motive behind some of these negotiations from these very same people and those associated with them. They read the forum's, the recruitment thread for Port Eryie (as an example), and some feel that the olive branch you are extending is not real. They have dealt with me, have seen me play, have interacted with me, and then they see what you say.

They do feel the need to protect themselves from this ( a "forked tongue" in native American lingo ), therefore, they have done so just like Sodom has done. They eliminate any perceived threat or perceived threat that is brought to "their area's. Do you blame them?

( and lets not even go into the Hatfield and Makoy(?) feud from the old American lore scenario,..... revenge for those of you who don't know the old feud)

Not one act of violence from the Russians I know in the "troubled area of the North" was not without a good cause.

So in order for any "Diplomacy" to actually work please keep these things in mind.

oh yea, i forgot one thing in this sandbox game so brilliantly crafted. In order for Sodom role playing this map to be the "good guys" rooting out the bad players.....oh my gosh, there will always have to be "bad guys"

Can anyone say Dictatorship?

Or am I just noobish and full of faggotry?

If you never see another post you will know I have been banned

since you don´t seem to read my posts, i say it again, we already have connections to some russian communities and traders, with some of them since the early days of W3.

and we really want to extend our connections to the russian communities, therefor this thread. we already established some new contacts and surprisingly there is no shouting about some russian villages raided by sodom. but feel free to think whatever you want. i personally like conspiracy theories also quite a bit.

and about dictatorship - we declared the central grid to be under our protection, that was it. no fees or taxes for the people living in it. and no, we don´t consider people not shring our oppinion as "bad guys", just people who threaten or attack our cities or protected folks. then we strike withouthesitating and with brute force.

then there is the point of banning. i personally like the total freedom of speech given in this forum and wouldn´t like anyone to be banned, even if i personally would consider some user as troll or moron. that doesn´t mean he should be silenced, just ignored by me.

and for roleplaying - as being quite rude and a highly demanding asshole in my job, i decided to roleplay the nice guy in this game and i think many people would consider it as well played ^^

and final word, you can't run from the fact that in r/l you guys are really pathetic.

since you don´t know me in real life, this is a rather stupid conclusion. i usually avoid using such words on users here, but in this case i reluctantly have to use it. while i try to stay calm and nice in here, you most likely would run away sobbing, when meeting me in real life

p.s.: i am sorry for derailing the thread again, but at least i tried to write a few words on topic.

[gothnoble]

I'm wondering if this is going to get back on topic anytime soon.

[Chakravanti]

I'm wondering if this is going to get back on topic anytime soon.

No. All negotiations are being conducted in PM. JS is just keeping the thread bumped for us.

I should need to announce that I haven't had much time to be around and haven't responded to the overwhelming response from this thread and I ask that leaders of foreign nations be patient as I get up to speed and try to respond as I have time. THank you that is all.

[Chakravanti]

So somewhere between personal and social reasons I've decided to stop playing for now. I've forwarded all PMs I've recieved to burgingham because I have good faith in him and his skills as a diplomat. Juhubert is an excellent leader but he's got so much to do and so little time to do it all in. Unlike most of us Haven & Heroin addicts that dude actually has a life...

I've done negotiations with burginham before and believe if anyone can handle this (probably even better than I) with diplomatic skill and finesse, it's birgingham.

I'll probably be back when the snow falls or some really awesome UI improvements are made.

Although if you know anything about Indiana you know the weather is far more reliable than Loftar's commitment to UI work (Indiana's weather is notoriously unreliable).