My first death

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Re: My first death

Postby Yasgur » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:07 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:
Jackard wrote:'breaking ass' does not somehow make one-twoshots a good permadeath mechanic

Oneshot on newbs maybe, more than that on others.
Again, it still shoots slow even with q180 arrows and 360 Marksmanship, it's the equal of shooting with 90 Marksmanship, or a little less.


Sorry if I'm being a little dense here, but if you can KO a pretty decent character on the first shot (as in this example), the speed doesn't matter.
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Re: My first death

Postby rye130 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:10 pm

Yasgur wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:
Jackard wrote:'breaking ass' does not somehow make one-twoshots a good permadeath mechanic

Oneshot on newbs maybe, more than that on others.
Again, it still shoots slow even with q180 arrows and 360 Marksmanship, it's the equal of shooting with 90 Marksmanship, or a little less.


Sorry if I'm being a little dense here, but if you can KO a pretty decent character on the first shot (as in this example), the speed doesn't matter.


Most cases it wont make a difference, its slow enough that moving will make you safe. In my case I was sitting, restoring stamina, stood up to go plow and was almost immediately shot. Had his aim been a little slower, it might have missed and I would have safely gotten into my house, destroyed my hearthfire all the while watching the door, logged out an wilderness spawned.
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Re: My first death

Postby Potjeh » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:11 pm

Being forced to run in circles constantly is not good gameplay.
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Re: My first death

Postby DatOneGuy » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:14 pm

A lot of things aren't good gameplay, and we're not going over every single one of them, but instead going after a single part.

Being outside is dangerous, what's wrong with that? If you want to afk, or handplow, go inside, you can just as easily do it inside and place chairs inside.
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Re: My first death

Postby Jackard » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:16 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:A lot of things aren't good gameplay, and we're not going over every single one of them, but instead going after a single part.

this is incorrect
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Re: My first death

Postby Potjeh » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:17 pm

The problem is that half the things in H&H are click and wait, and the wait times are not insignificant. Sometimes there's nobody in village chat, or I simply don't feel like chatting. I don't want to stare at my character constantly, I want to be able to tab over to the forums while I wait for crafting to be finished. If I'm inside my walls, I should get a chance to run indoors, not die instantly.
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Re: My first death

Postby Yasgur » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:20 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:A lot of things aren't good gameplay, and we're not going over every single one of them, but instead going after a single part.

Being outside is dangerous, what's wrong with that? If you want to afk, or handplow, go inside, you can just as easily do it inside and place chairs inside.


Sorry, I thought he was inside his walls.
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Re: My first death

Postby rye130 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:33 pm

Yasgur wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:A lot of things aren't good gameplay, and we're not going over every single one of them, but instead going after a single part.

Being outside is dangerous, what's wrong with that? If you want to afk, or handplow, go inside, you can just as easily do it inside and place chairs inside.


Sorry, I thought he was inside his walls.


I was inside my palliade 20 tiles from a house. I wasn't hand plowing I was wooden plowing because I had a lot i needed to plow and would rather waste time with a wooden plow then wasting iron on repairs.

Reason chair wasn't inside was because I'd rather crawl 10 tiles to a chair then 30 and opened a door. I had no reason to assume I'd need to be actively moving and if not then be on doors because as far as I know, I hadn't done anything to warrant my death
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Re: My first death

Postby DatOneGuy » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:10 pm

Considering he was inside a palisade, a melee person would have killed him just as well.

Potjeh wrote:The problem is that half the things in H&H are click and wait, and the wait times are not insignificant. Sometimes there's nobody in village chat, or I simply don't feel like chatting. I don't want to stare at my character constantly, I want to be able to tab over to the forums while I wait for crafting to be finished. If I'm inside my walls, I should get a chance to run indoors, not die instantly.

And this is a problem with Ranger's Bows? No, it's a problem with click and wait, no one likes waiting, and repetitive clicking is bullshit.

Jackard wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:A lot of things aren't good gameplay, and we're not going over every single one of them, but instead going after a single part.

this is incorrect

I thought you had me blocked? Either way, unless you're actually going to state some specifics, you're wrong.
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Re: My first death

Postby Potjeh » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:15 pm

If you just tabbed over to the forums, you'll hear the melee guy chopping the wall.
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