Soviet Russia, Croatia

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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby BlackKopcap » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:45 pm

L0ckAndL0ad wrote:
Griegor wrote:I disagree that one murder is deserving of an entire village's destruction. You punish a murder with a murder. One for one.

If you proved Putin murdered somone then Putin should have been the only one to die.

You are absolutely right. But, like I've said earlier, there was also a conflict about the mine hole in the center of the Croatia village. Here it goes:
So.. we(i mean RIverflame village and our town called Mordovia) shareiron mine with each other, there is no problem with it, and never was, untill appears new settlement named Croatia. For my opinion, first task what Croatia leader had to do,just to acquainted with heighbors. He did'nt do that, even haven't tryed. He just overbuilt gates of our iron mine with his walls and bult battering ram there. What will u do?

That's the answer.

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Every time i see it, i question The Greatest Void, why is it us to learn english and speak it, and not them - to learn and speak russian (or, maybe, to be fair, even "them to learn russian too, as far as we learn english"). They say it is "international". But russian language is also international, isnt it? I mean, just look, the english wiki:
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So, whats the f#%$ with that? Where is it but in the books?
Well, bail that, lets get back to the topic...

The one thing I'm afraid of... ehm.. Somebody someday will try to force us to speak chinese XDDDD



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"That's the answer." That is not. They built their settlement near tin hole. We gave a wave of the hand for this, but when they found our claimed iron mine, then they are venture too far.
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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby L0ckAndL0ad » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:00 pm

"That's the answer." That is not.

I mean, now i see your point.

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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby Griegor » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:10 pm

sirlagsalot wrote:2 Griegor ->
We did. And personally i dont have any intention and will to hunt any1 to death. And now at least 2 citizens of Croatia declared war and jihad (lol, i wonder if the even looked in the wiki to check what that means) with all the russians. Again. And you are willing to join them, as i read it from your tone. Or am i stumbleing?


Your stumbling. You wiped out an entire village and your worried about the words of one of their members? The person who claimed Jihad isn't even from Croatia.

I'll state it again for you. We like to keep to ourselves. I will do whatever is needed to defend my Empire if we are attacked. Croatia is not part of our Empire. If you leave us alone, we will leave you alone. I prefer to concentrate on other things than marching up north to engage is a pointless fight over a dead village.
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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby bisjac » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:35 pm

well from what i gather. Croatia can spend 2 weeks rebuilding the "major accomplishments" (my quote) it had.
yes that was me yawning with sarcasm.

i would rather my meager camp be destroyed, then an actual time spent successful village.
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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby CodenameB » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:52 pm

Ok, old chief of Croatia here.

Few things: 1. People who died in Croatia. Deadlift probably wasn't online so he didn't know, yes there was one person killed other than Griegor's alt, it was some thief one of my guys found. He didn't have a hearth fire, so he got summoned inside Croatia and killed. You want to know how your corpse got there? One of my friends found and punished you. Don't go acting innocent.

2. "Taking" the iron mine. We scouted around and found an iron mine with a battering ram outside of it and theft and vandalism all around. Seems like someone had decided to attack it, so we decided to set up a personal claim next to it and keep watch for the thieves, after all we didn't want them to come after us. Next day I got PM from the chief of Riverflame asking why I put up a claim around their mine. I said sorry, and had my LS Putin get rid of his claim immediately. We never took your iron mine, any iron we had was from trades. To be clear, the battering ram was NOT ours.

3. Talking to neighbors. Here is a screen shot of the day after we finished rebuilding all of the broken walls around former Tinsel Town. Remember, everything was destroyed or red, gates wide open. The forums after extensive searching found that the city had been abandoned months ago, and no one new claimed sovereignty. I guess this is how villages in the area greet new neighbors? http://img840.imageshack.us/f/127874762076.jpg/ As you can imagine, it was very hard to form good relations with people who would have killed us on sight.

4. My beef with how Croatia was attacked. Fine, let's say one of our people stole something killed someone, or whatever, and I didn't know about it. Isn't this the part where you come and ask about it? Instead, we have someone who approaches our LS asking to be trade partners, then when they get the crossroad signpost, they build construction signs all around it and glitch inside the wall. They then kill everyone, and camp around to kill people who come to rebuild. It is only days later I learn that Soviet Russia are the ones who did it, and no one has been completely clear on why it happened. Here is all I know about Soviet Russia after translating their forum via google, "Someone" said they we did something to them, then Soviet Russia believed them, and never asked for our side of the story before doling out justice, a justice that involved lying and glitching to win. A justice that involved killing as many as 10 characters for the crimes of one, a crime the others didn't even know about. They then act pompous on this forum as if they never even did anything.
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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby sirlagsalot » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:23 pm

Here is all I know about Soviet Russia after translating their forum via google, "Someone" said they we did something to them, then Soviet Russia believed them, and never asked for our side of the story before doling out justice, a justice that involved lying and glitching to win. A justice that involved killing as many as 10 characters for the crimes of one, a crime the others didn't even know about. They then act pompous on this forum as if they never even did anything.


Justice? Dirty justice? What are you talking about, seriously? Did you even read the 4th post in this topic, the answer involved party gave to them? Why are u calling wipeing out an agressive neighbour, who repeated commission of an unprovoked offence, a justice? If they whould have been looking for justice, they would have sent a spokesman, lol.
What was that line again... "No insults, just pure violence, gentlemen" - smth like that.
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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby CodenameB » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:57 pm

sirlagsalot wrote:
Here is all I know about Soviet Russia after translating their forum via google, "Someone" said they we did something to them, then Soviet Russia believed them, and never asked for our side of the story before doling out justice, a justice that involved lying and glitching to win. A justice that involved killing as many as 10 characters for the crimes of one, a crime the others didn't even know about. They then act pompous on this forum as if they never even did anything.


Justice? Dirty justice? What are you talking about, seriously? Did you even read the 4th post in this topic, the answer involved party gave to them? Why are u calling wipeing out an agressive neighbour, who repeated commission of an unprovoked offence, a justice? If they whould have been looking for justice, they would have sent a spokesman, lol.
What was that line again... "No insults, just pure violence, gentlemen" - smth like that.


Ok, now I'm just confused. If we weren't destroyed for revenge for some imaginary crime, then why the hell did you attack us? Did you really need to steal our tin bars and traveler sacks that badly?

Are you saying you wiped us out just because were we were there?
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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby sirlagsalot » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:18 pm

Ok, now I'm just confused. If we weren't destroyed for revenge for some imaginary crime, then why the hell did you attack us? Did you really need to steal our tin bars and traveler sacks that badly?

Are you saying you wiped us out just because were we were there?


Now, now... As i see it this far and as those pals say, you tryed to ram their friends village and take their friends mine. You left murder scents and had a corpse of their pal inside your village territory. With these, i suppose, you passed "no justice, conversations and/or diplomacy beyond this point" point. That was basically the reason to wipe you out and not to leave any explanations but "Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan" message. And all the "approaches our LS asking to be trade partners" and "lying and glitching to win" things you mentioned were nothing but means to wipe you out faster.

Or maybe i got it all wrong.

Sincerely not yours, bypasser.
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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby CodenameB » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:47 pm

sirlagsalot wrote:
Ok, now I'm just confused. If we weren't destroyed for revenge for some imaginary crime, then why the hell did you attack us? Did you really need to steal our tin bars and traveler sacks that badly?

Are you saying you wiped us out just because were we were there?


Now, now... As i see it this far and as those pals say, you tryed to ram their friends village and take their friends mine. You left murder scents and had a corpse of their pal inside your village territory. With these, i suppose, you passed "no justice, conversations and/or diplomacy beyond this point" point. That was basically the reason to wipe you out and not to leave any explanations but "Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan" message. And all the "approaches our LS asking to be trade partners" and "lying and glitching to win" things you mentioned were nothing but means to wipe you out faster.

Or maybe i got it all wrong.

Sincerely not yours, bypasser.


You clearly didn't read my post. The ram at the mine was someone else, we found the ram too. I talked with the chief of Riverflame about the ram, ask him. The only thing I know about the ram is that the mine was covered in scents of theft and vandalism of the people who broke in, and my scout said that those scents lead to some small Russian village. I never heard anything about a ram at a village, do you have any pictures to prove the existence of this ram? I would be the first I've seen. I told you why the corpse of their pal was in the village, he was a thief and we summoned him. It's his fault if he's going to steal and not have a hearth fire. As for no justice or conversations beyond a point, that's beyond stupid. Are you seriously telling me Soviet Russia is so dumb that they would believe anything anyone said to them, without bothering to check the info? Well I know a village who built 12 rams and had the corpses of 8 of our villages in it. Since you don't fact check, you should go destroy them for me, since they are past the point of justice. PM me if you're gonna help.

Also, I'm impressed, you admit to being liars and glitch abusers. I'm not even being sarcastic when I say you've got to have big balls to admit that sort of thing in public.
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Re: Soviet Russia, Croatia

Postby Skorm » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:54 pm

So, you guys are weak enought to build a ram or what ? that takes you like 20 str each whit 4 guys, or you were scared because they killed someone ? he deserved it, it takes some time to move a corpse, it has to decay first, they had to summon it, wich means they got scents, you can only summon whit "advanced" scents, for example thef or murder, so the guy must have done something, So, we are to weak lets call in a big vill to do the dirt work for us due to our noobness, well, they didnt called anyone, but are provoking villages, not only me, SR wiped the vill, stole everything they could and camped the players, that going to far for just a death and a cheap mine, thats makes you and SR a tarjet, you might wanna be carefull, patrol the walls, look for rams, i am not the only one looking for you :)

this message goes for SR as well as Mord(cant remmber the name and i cant read the posts due to lag, i guess you will understand after reading. About russia in general, lets face it, not every russian steals, but you dont hear about good russians, you only hear about ppl getting killed by em or shit like, you dont see nice russians, they are to happy griding killing rabbits or shit, leave those alone, they cool ;) i trade whit em, i like em, but i cant stand looking a semi-str B12 noob vill just murdering ppl like this, thats BS

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