Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

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Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby Chakravanti » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:07 pm

This is an official call by Sodom to any relevant and interested Russian parties. We ask that you find a way to appoint a Russian diplomat from your group to conduct diplomacy with Sodom.

We have decided after some discussion that this would benefit all parties involved because while Sodom firmly believes in it's own strength we do as well recognize and respect the strength of some members of the Russian community.

In the interest of the prevention of war we should like to establish a means of diplomatic negotiations before any incidents arise that may provoke such things so that should anything of a questionable nature arise we can prevent escalation of damages.

Furthermore we believe that such lines of negotiations can help other civilizations whom may have purposely or accidentally wronged Russians.

As it stands Russians in general have poor public diplomacy because no Russian takes the time to explain their actions. We believe that those Russians who take the effort to participate in these discussions with Sodom would benefit from an improved public image and when wrongs are had that it will be easier for Russians to seek reparations from noob nations for any crimes against a Russian people.

We understand that Russians are not a single village and that this will likely involve negotiations with many different parties. Currently the public views all Russians together but we do know this is not the case and wish to be able to distinguish between your unique villages and respond appropriately. We are not racists. We do not hate Russians. We believe you are a decent, intelligent and reasonable people trying to play a game and protect your own while suffering difficulty with a language barrier and we are doing this because we desire to help you communicate with the world at large because we believe that doing so can benefit all parties involved. Perhaps even lines of trade, assistance, and hopefully even friendship may be established.

If you are interested please select the person you believe best suited for the position from your group. If none amongst you speaks english we are willing to try to work through babelfish. Private message me with as much information as you can concerning the following things:

Yourself.
The group or groups you represent and population.
If you have conducted any prior trade/negotiations with Sodom or other nation via Juhubert or another member.
Links to any political drama or violence thread with which you may have been involved and as much as of an explanation as you can provide.

Please note that we have no interest in prosecuting any of these various attacks on noob villages. We ask for this history merely as a means of identifying you and your group.

Thank you for your time.

From Yahoo Babelfish:
Это официальный звонок Sodom к всем уместным и заинтересованным русским партиям. Мы спрашиваем что вы находите путь назначить русский дипломат от вашей группы к дипломатии проведения с Sodom. Мы решали после того как некоторое обсуждение что это помогло всем партиям включило потому что пока Sodom твердо верит в it' s имеет прочность мы также узнаем и уважаем прочность некоторых членов русской общины. В интересе предохранения войны мы должны полюбить установить середины дипломатических переговоров прежде чем любые случаи возникнут которые могут спровоцировать такие вещи так, что должно что-нибыдь из спорной природы возникает мы сможем предотвратить эскалацию повреждений. Furthermore мы верим что такие линии переговоров могут помочь другим цивилизациям которые могут иметь нарочно или случайно поврежденных русских. По мере того как она стоит русские вообще имеют плохую общественную дипломатию потому что никакой русский не принимает время объяснить их действия. Мы верим что те русские которые принимают усилие участвовать на эти встречи с Sodom и извлекали пользу улучшенное общественное изображение и когда неправды имеются которым будет легке для русских изыскивать репарации от наций noob для любых злодеяний против русских людей. Мы понимаем что русские нет одиночного села и что это вероятно включит переговоры с много различных партий. В настоящее время публика осматривает всех русских совместно но мы знаем это нет случая и желания, котор нужно мочь различить между вашими уникально селами и ответить соотвественно. Мы нет расистов. Мы не ненавидим русских. Мы верим что вы пристойные, толковейшие и разумные люди пробуя сыграть игру и защитить ваши пока терпя затруднение с языковым барьером и мы делаем это потому что мы желаем помочь вам связывать с миром на большом потому что мы верим что делать так может помочь всем включили партиям, котор. Возможно даже линии торговли, помощи, и многообещающе даже приятельство могут быть установлены. Если вы заинтересованы пожалуйста, то выберите персону вы верите самое лучшее одетому для положения от вашей группы. Если никакое среди вас говорит английскую язык, то мы охотно готовы попробовать работать через babelfish. Приватное сообщение я с как много информацией по мере того как вы можете относящся следующие вещи: Себя. Группа или группы вы представляете и населенность. Если вы дирижировали любые прежние торговлю/переговоры с Sodom или другую нацию через Juhubert или другой член. Соединения к любой политической резьбе драмы или расправы с которой вы можете включиться и как очень от объяснения по мере того как вы можете обеспечить. Пожалуйста заметьте что мы не имеем никакой интерес в преследовать по суду любые из этих различные нападения на селах noob. Мы просим эта история просто как средство определять вас и вашу группу. Вы на ваше время.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby caketan » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:43 pm

You are all blowing this thing way out of proportion.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby rye130 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:03 pm

caketan wrote:You are all blowing this thing way out of proportion.


Conflicts with the Russian's are nothing new, at one point people tried a genocide of all Russians (to reduce the server population). Its good that Sodom's trying to work things out.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby burgingham » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:06 pm

caketan wrote:You are all blowing this thing way out of proportion.


No he is not (well a little maybe, but hey it is chak), don't post when you have no idea what is really going on. This is not about the few noobfarms that have been raided lately.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby exewu » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:15 pm

burgingham wrote:No he is not (well a little maybe, but hey it is chak), don't post when you have no idea what is really going on. This is not about the few noobfarms that have been raided lately.


Perhaps you should indulge us then, after all these are public forums and it's not like the russian ones are very hard to find. A place better suited for this message one would think.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:19 pm

rye130 wrote:
caketan wrote:You are all blowing this thing way out of proportion.


Conflicts with the Russian's are nothing new, at one point people tried a genocide of all Russians (to reduce the server population). Its good that Sodom's trying to work things out.

It very much is, things go both ways and it can be very annoying. Many people are straight up racist against Russians, and others seem as if they're racist because they have no way to identify said russians half the time it's just "He came and spoke russian!", they never give any way to identify themselves, and considering the fact that they can type Cyrillic I can see their village name but have no way of typing it out.

I really hope this helps mend the huge divide between English-speaking players and Russian-speaking players.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby Sarge » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:32 pm

exewu wrote:
burgingham wrote:No he is not (well a little maybe, but hey it is chak), don't post when you have no idea what is really going on. This is not about the few noobfarms that have been raided lately.


Perhaps you should indulge us then, after all these are public forums and it's not like the russian ones are very hard to find. A place better suited for this message one would think.


I beg to differ. This is the official H&H forum and where Russians that are articulate in English are most likely to find this thread and pass a translation onto Russian forums. However, this is OT.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby katchemash » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:34 pm

rye130 wrote:
caketan wrote:You are all blowing this thing way out of proportion.


Conflicts with the Russian's are nothing new, at one point people tried a genocide of all Russians (to reduce the server population). Its good that Sodom's trying to work things out.


Really? What happened? I would be interested in the history of this.

And I agree. Working it out with the Russians, provided they are not hostile and will not wipe out hermits and loners for Mother Russia, will be beneficial to everyone involved.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby burgingham » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:02 pm

http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4645

We were quite sucessfull btw, nobody of us ever got hit by a russian. I want to apologize for those actions though, it was just our general policy back in world 2 to kill everything in our way. WV is in no way associated with Sodom anymore except for me. Chak, Avu, Juhu etc were all enemies of mine back then.
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Re: Russian Diplomacy: Дипломатия

Postby katchemash » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:26 pm

Thats very interesting. I assume there is no chance of another Jihad is there?
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