Port Eryie is recruiting

[DatOneGuy]

Hello there johnsmith, a few questions:
1)You are aware that most of the recent drama is around the northern area where you are located, not the center of the world, correct?
2)How long have you guys been 'active', I've visited Port Eyrie several times over the course of two weeks nand left runestones with messages for you guys.
3)We lived East of you (Following your northern river from our lake near the q66 water spot) for quite some time, never noticed anyone.
4)You may want to watch out, many people have been killed without warning in the area and there's known to be a character berserking in the area range killing people and then breaking their palisades down by hand.

I mention this because since I've been there (recently) I'm aware you only have palisades, unless you moved I highly suggest you build brick walls ASAP.

[johnsmith]

I appreciate the warning.

Yes I have noticed minor issue's within our area, however, Port Eryie has only once been "sacked" which was 2 months ago. We have not had one villager touched since then so I would imagine maybe people are provoking this upon themselves. (as is possible in the case of 2 months ago)

If you have been here you must then have noticed just how large this place is as well as kept up, this does not happen on it's own (go to Constantinople, although it's the center of trade, it is decaying in many spots and it does look bad). I imagine Paranoia does keep people huddled in spots prone to attacks that are more frequent, and yes, loners are destined to be harassed because they are easy targets.

The one item we don't have is Iron, and to build a brick wall around a village this big would be impossible anyway. besides the brick wall alone has not made any other village survive, it only provides a bit more security because if someone wants you dead, or wants your stuff in this game they WILL get it regardless.

"Killed without warning" and "Many" are interpretive words.

Nobody is going to tell you they are going to kill you anyway, and "many", compared to what....lets see...mmmmmm.... Sodom and area.... "Many" have died down there.

I am not trying to create an argument, just letting everyone else know that there are drawbacks anywhere. Port Eryie has been drama free for 2 months so far, name another village this size that has gone that long?

BTW: Why would you want to scare people away from this area?

[DatOneGuy]

I don't want to scare them away I want to warn them. More than half the people who died weren't related to us at all, they were people living nearby who got killed for being near an area. It seems there was confusion where they thought those people belonged to a larger group. This isn't the first time it's happened with northern settlements.

In any case, if you need iron I'll gladly you trade you some.

Considering the one case of palisades broken by hand in the north is by a group I don't know of who attacked farmers who were within farmland (from a boat they shot them dead) and then broke the palisades down by hand a brickwall would afford you much safety, no one can break one by hand, you may not be completely safe given your area, however you will be safe against people being able to get in quickly. A brickwall currently allows you a 24hour window in which to identify rams and break them, a palisade no longer affords you this safety, they are breakable within minutes. These are just a few things I learned the hard way I felt I should pass on to someone who lives in the same area I did, considering the farmers who died were less than a minute river-drive from you (in fact traveling along the same river that the russian farming village south of you is on).

Good luck recruiting.

[Reimad]

Wait, minutes? I thought palisades were supposed to be almost indestructible without a battering ram?

[DatOneGuy]

Wait, minutes? I thought palisades were supposed to be almost indestructible without a battering ram?

Check out the "Fires of the North" thread, the people who were killed (and then promptly had their palisade destroyed) were no longer in any affiliation with us and went to go live back on their old farm. They were killed by a seperate force (seemingly randomly), and after killing both characters broke the palisade down within minutes. This is not an amazing feat, with proper infrastructure it's achievable by any small village within a month, the fact that someone did it and is up to no good on such a character is the problem.

[Reimad]

Ahh, I see. So it's possible on a ridiculously strong character. Well, I don't plan to aggro those so I should be ok.

[johnsmith]

Again, why are you determined to continue to try to scare people away?

According to Potjeh a moderator of the forums and experienced player I qoute and link.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8613&start=10

"Get some more experience under your belt before making suggestions on the fundamentals. If you play smart, the griefer can't touch you. A simple palisade takes 2900 strength to break by hand, and nobody has that atm. Sure, they will, but then the devs will just raise the bar further. Which, by the way, is a really stupid way to deal with it IMO, they should just make it completely impossible to break walls without a ram."

Now either Potjeh was insulting me and my experience in game knowledge, or you are trying to scare people away, which is it, you can't have both.

The pallisades at Port Eryie have not been taken down within minutes ever, and we have a lot more HQ stuff than any other little farmer palisade claim has, there is no superman around here. there is however like I said minor issue's, less than what they have down south.


You need a ram to break a palisade.

Again, I appreciate the offer for Iron but its not needed at the moment. this place is too big for brick.
maybe later we can trade so I can get better armor and weapons for my villagers.

[DatOneGuy]

Educate yourself. Palisades were changed to 30 soak quite some time ago, it only takes 961 strength to break it by hand. Currently at least two people can do so. Seriously, read. Seriously, just go read. You'll see it around. It's possible, it's not new news either, it's not hard to do either. Palisades have been changed twice recently, once when the damage was changed to sqrt(str) (and palisades were set to 45 soak at the time), then again when palisades were lowered to 30 soak.

Due to the lowering palisades are weaker than even strongboxes now, and raising a character to break them by hand is not hard. There are already two KNOWN people who can I'm sure there's at least one more unknown.

I'm not exactly trying to scare people out of the north, I am however trying to make sure people know the risk in the area.

[johnsmith]

So Potjeh was insulting me, and now you are insulting him.

Read, okay, who's posts, and who's numbers....yours?

Risks? The risks are the same no matter where you are and again like the thread pk'ers/griefers, unless you have iron you are screwed. an unbalanced game mechanics.

If you refer to the post from Sodom about Diplomacy, maybe that is the only solution at the moment.

Right now, you "making people aware" is interpreted as BEWARE stay away from Port Eryie.

Go do this to the other villages and see if they like it.

Are you an ass on purpose or is this just your nature?

[Avu]

look noob you like how dog told your or not that's your problem. Facts are facts palisades are 30 soak they are breakable and have been broken since the new update. What you choose to do with your information is your problem just don't go baaawww they broke my palisade why nobody told me this was possible when it happens.