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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby frontrox1 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:22 pm

katchemash wrote:
I hope you can sleep at night knowing that you destroyed these villages chances of becoming a full fledged villages.


You can ask that of yourselves since we don't conquer anyone and keep to ourselves unless barbarians such as yourselves forces people to flee to us.

Well then, your game life style must be very boring.

Just because we play the game differently does not make use barbarians, If we were really barbarians then no one would be there crying to you for help.
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby juhubert » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:26 pm

so, after having read the whole threadthere are a few questions remaining. just questions, not more, since your empire is not interfering with our supergrid and our policy.

you are recruiting villages just on your supergrid? or are you extending it to your adjacent grids also?

if a village is up and running, happens to be on your supergrid, what force would you use to get it into your empire, if they are not willingly to join you? diplomacy? brute force up to raid, kill and salt?

are you planning to add every single village and hermit or small sttlement in your supergrid under your control? are you caring for allies and such or are you adding them anyway?
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby Potjeh » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:27 pm

What, you'd kill people IRL?
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby frontrox1 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:37 pm

juhubert wrote:so, after having read the whole threadthere are a few questions remaining. just questions, not more, since your empire is not interfering with our supergrid and our policy.

you are recruiting villages just on your supergrid? or are you extending it to your adjacent grids also?

if a village is up and running, happens to be on your supergrid, what force would you use to get it into your empire, if they are not willingly to join you? diplomacy? brute force up to raid, kill and salt?

are you planning to add every single village and hermit or small sttlement in your supergrid under your control? are you caring for allies and such or are you adding them anyway?

Only in our SG

I dont know how that works, Bisjac will be on and he'll answer that for you.

We only focus on villages, Stake claimed and unclaimed land is left alone.
Allies as in "People in our empire"?
If so then yes we care for them, they are part of our empire.we give them mines and supplies
If not then no, they are not in our empire we do have trade with our allies.
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby juhubert » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:45 pm

frontrox1 wrote:Allies as in "People in our empire"?


sorry, didn´t make that point clear.

i wanted to ask, whether you care, if these villages have allies out of your supergrid? since h&h politics tends to get rather complicated some times :mrgreen:
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby frontrox1 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:55 pm

juhubert wrote:
frontrox1 wrote:Allies as in "People in our empire"?


sorry, didn´t make that point clear.

i wanted to ask, whether you care, if these villages have allies out of your supergrid? since h&h politics tends to get rather complicated some times :mrgreen:

I would imagine some might have and that is no issue to us since we focus on our own sg.
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby Sarge » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:55 pm

It seems it didn't take too long for the scale to start tipping the other way again.

Is it really that difficult to make clear your intentions and the means of accomplishment once you have decided to make it public? I have read so many contradictory posts from ToH in this thread it's silly. Join or run/die, no we give you resources, no you have no choice, no you can leave if you wish or stay if you don't want to join and now mention of taxes levied... wtf is it now? Seriously, are you guys even in sync yourselves with what you are doing or is it down to shitty PR again?

'Please ask Bisjac, i don't know' - wtf? Are the rest of you drones... sheep? Surely not, so why not clarify. The sooner you bring clarity of your intentions to the public forum to which you have decided to declare wtf ever it is that you tried to declare, the sooner the rest will be able to take a view/stance etc.

I have seen some guys post on here that joining you is great and I have heard of others complaining via the via... why don't they post themselves?
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby juhubert » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:06 pm

hmm, still didn´t make myself clear. i meant, if they are allied, it is rather possible, that they will object against your try of assimilation. will they be ignored, or will their objection be taken into account?
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby frontrox1 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:28 pm

Sarge wrote:It seems it didn't take too long for the scale to start tipping the other way again.

Is it really that difficult to make clear your intentions and the means of accomplishment once you have decided to make it public? I have read so many contradictory posts from ToH in this thread it's silly. Join or run/die, no we give you resources, no you have no choice, no you can leave if you wish or stay if you don't want to join and now mention of taxes levied... wtf is it now? Seriously, are you guys even in sync yourselves with what you are doing or is it down to shitty PR again? Our intentions are good. Like i said, i'm not sure how we go about conquering villages
i dont think we make it optional though :lol: . Joining us gives benefits such as mines, good trade and protection.


'Please ask Bisjac, i don't know' - wtf? Are the rest of you drones... sheep? Surely not, so why not clarify. The sooner you bring clarity of your intentions to the public forum to which you have decided to declare wtf ever it is that you tried to declare, the sooner the rest will be able to take a view/stance etc.
The reason i said "I do not know" is because i did not want to misinform, better to have exact info of what you do know then part info that can create more confusion.

I have seen some guys post on here that joining you is great and I have heard of others complaining via the via... why don't they post themselves?
Yes i agree, why not?


juhubert wrote:hmm, still didn´t make myself clear. i meant, if they are allied, it is rather possible, that they will object against your try of assimilation. will they be ignored, or will their objection be taken into account?
We never had something like that happen (That i know of) so we wouldn't have a procedure for that
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Re: Tarn of Hotdog (TOH) -Events and Politics)

Postby Airleas » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:59 pm

When you say you offer protection, I am to assume (by way of the thread and the way Bisjac and yourself describe your "expanding" process) it is from your own blades and not by those outside of said "empire"?

You say you hand out these mines and offer good trade. What are you going to do when you hand out these mines to the wrong group of people who join simply to take the mine, build the resources, then crush you from within your own "center of control"? What are you going to do if, a previous trade partner who was providing metal for other resources, loses said trade because you have openly provided metal and other goods to these and his business slumps? If they raise arms and attack a village, are you going to track and exact revenge for said village? The way you post it sounds like you couldn't care less if this happened and they are just your pawns.

For an "empire" so "vast and wonderful" as your own, you would think if you are going to have someone posting about the state of said "empire" to have knowledge of how you would react to foreign relations with your satellite villages and their allies. If you are expanding in such a way that you are unsure of who your villages know outside of the grid and you have no way of dealing with such a situation as Juhubert asked about, how are you going to react should a village, or even two of them decided to band together with their allies, take your mine, and remove your oppressive reign?

You would think before making public your intentions, you would have worked out the kinks in your way of dealing with foreign allies and affairs. Or at least who had enough PR skills to say something besides "I don't know -- let <name> clarify so I don't make us sound even worse."
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