Advanced beehive experiment

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Re: Advanced beehive experiment

Postby Snk » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:44 pm

gogis wrote:Another question
I gathered wax and honey fully, then replanted carrots and after it grew I took wax again and it's just ~13q, while carrots around is 20-25. So, replanting lowers Q of future products? I thought that Q drops of existing product. Now I am totally confused :(

There is no "current" or "future" products in the sense of quality. There is a variable hive quality, upon which QL of products you pull out depend. So if you had hive QL circa 20, replanted using QL 20 seeds, then you effectively lowered hive QL to something between 20 and 10 (the more seeds you planted the lower end QL of hive in this example). Everything that you pull out now, regardless of if it being a new or old product, will be of that new hive QL. On the plus side, you can wait before harvesting until your crops have grown, which would bring hive QL up again and products within will come out at that higher QL.
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Re: Advanced beehive experiment

Postby Sevenless » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:03 pm

How the averaging formula works would be nice to know.

One important thing I've noticed: Large fields always have q sitting at 1/2 crop quality. This suggests that it's a finite number (ie 5 changes to change quality completely or something like that).

Ok now that I say it that seems obvious, but oh well xD
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Re: Advanced beehive experiment

Postby Snk » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:55 pm

Sevenless wrote:One important thing I've noticed: Large fields always have q sitting at 1/2 crop quality. This suggests that it's a finite number (ie 5 changes to change quality completely or something like that)

Not neccesarily.
If d - difference between original QL and new crop/2 QL, w - weight of old quality in formula, n - number of QL changes, v - resulting variation above crop/2 QL
d*w^n=v
d=v/w^n
If the QL update is rounded down (which is almost a certainty) then v->1
d=1/w^n
Now if for example old QL weigts at 2/3 then after 10 iterations
d=circa 57.6
so, assuming replanting large field gives you at least 10 QL changes, using QL100 seeds would bring down everything below QL 109 to QL50.
In other words it might be theoreticaly infinte number to level qualities but since it's effect is exponential you would need a very large difference between hive QL and seeds for it to not end at half-seed value on a large field.

Another possibilty is that hive QL is stored as float (and product is int from rounding down), weight is high and every single crop change/planting affects it.
Assuming such numbers for above formula (w at 99/100, n at 500) you get even higher QL hives leveled down to half-crop (resulting d at 152).
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Re: Advanced beehive experiment

Postby Matheusmk » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:34 am

My friend told me that when the radius of a beehive collides within the radius of another beehive, something gets worse.

Is this true? If yes, what worse?
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Re: Advanced beehive experiment

Postby dagrimreefah » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:02 am

Matheusmk wrote:My friend told me that when the radius of a beehive collides within the radius of another beehive, something gets worse.

Is this true? If yes, what worse?

Yes its true. The quality of honey/wax gets worse.
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Re: Advanced beehive experiment

Postby Matheusmk » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:03 am

dagrimreefah wrote:
Matheusmk wrote:My friend told me that when the radius of a beehive collides within the radius of another beehive, something gets worse.

Is this true? If yes, what worse?

Yes its true. The quality of honey/wax gets worse.


Oh, thank you.
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