The Lawspeaker thread

[Prowny]

So I had an intense night in Haven (this game gets so intense sometimes it's ridiculous) and well, basically, it came down to me and my villagers debating and deciding to take a hearthling's life despite murder being against all what we stand for, in the sake of our village's protection.
We had a long debate, we made a plan, and we executed it, poorly... but then again, luckily for us, because it was all a huge misunderstanding from the beginning.
What I got from all this is that, next time, when in doubt, I'll go for the peaceful option, since that's what I stand for. Even if I die, at least it will be in the name of my hearthling beliefs.
And then I was wondering, how many of you fellow Lawspeakers out there have had to make hard choices for the sake of your village?
How did that go?

TL;DR: LS support group tiem

[Jesus_Smith_Nandez]

An LS not only needs to make decisions that affect themselves; the weight in their decisions come in knowing they affect their comrades as well, who rely on them for his/her wisdom. An LS represents what a whole village is, what they stand for, and brings together individuals who see the same way as them. An LS has the courage to not only focus on supporting themselves, but to expand their influence to helping others; to not only pick up but carry the responsibility of managing a group. With all this responsibility, comes the risk of crushing the lives of your self and your friends if a wrong decision is made.

#respect

[Ninijutsu]

The thrilling adventures of living in a dysfunctional village of strangers, i miss it. I'd like to hear the full story if you'd be willing to share.

For a lot of us though, the lawspeaker is a meaningless title, and goes no further than the poor soul tasked with oathing people around.

[Jesus_Smith_Nandez]

For a lot of us though, the lawspeaker is a meaningless title, and goes no further than the poor soul tasked with oathing people around.

I wish this wasn't true. A lot of actual lawspeakers are just alts, and no one is really in charge.

[Kitamie]

An LS not only needs to make decisions that affect themselves; the weight in their decisions come in knowing they affect their comrades as well, who rely on them for his/her wisdom. An LS represents what a whole village is, what they stand for, and brings together individuals who see the same way as them. An LS has the courage to not only focus on supporting themselves, but to expand their influence to helping others; to not only pick up but carry the responsibility of managing a group. With all this responsibility, comes the risk of crushing the lives of your self and your friends if a wrong decision is made.

#respect

I agree with Jesus. Major decisions are handed out after a range of discussions etc and more often than not, someone is going to not like a decision that has been made. When this happens they will then more times than not head straight for the forums to try and bad mouth the LS etc. Sometimes you think you have all of the facts and then it turns out that you have been fed a load of convincing bulldust by some people you thought you could trust. Sooner or later the truth comes out and those people show their true colours. But shit happens, it's a game of strategies.

[venatorvenator]

A LS not only needs to make decisions that affect themselves; the weight in their decisions come in knowing they affect their comrades as well, who rely on them for his/her wisdom. An LS represents what a whole village is, what they stand for, and brings together individuals who see the same way as them. An LS has the courage to not only focus on supporting themselves, but to expand their influence to helping others; to not only pick up but carry the responsibility of managing a group. With all this responsibility, comes the risk of crushing the lives of your self and your friends if a wrong decision is made.
#respect

I disagree. The actions of every villager matters just as much as the LS's. If one of your villagers decides to steal something from somewhere, people will eventually come and target your village, possibly killing everyone in it, no matter how well-behaved everyone else is or how good a LS you are. The LS's job as I see it is to work on the big picture, handle diplomacy, and assure the long-term survival of the village according to the village's principles (doesn't matter if those goals are raiding, production, development, support, etc.). Lawspeaking is a different kind of job, but it's not more important that the villagers'.

[Amanda44]

Aren't you both saying the same thing?

[venatorvenator]

I don't think so, he said said the LS's decision has particular weight in affecting the villagers' lives, and I said every villager's decision is equally important and fucks things up in the same measure.

Though we can only understand so much from each other through forum PMs:D

[Amanda44]

I don't think so, he said said the LS's decision has particular weight in affecting the villagers' lives, and I said every villager's decision is equally important and fucks things up in the same measure.

Though we can only understand so much from each other through forum PMs:D

True,

I don't have villagers but from a perspective of someone who employs ppl, both are equally important but the boss holds the brunt of responsibility, it is up to the boss to get the best out of her staff and remove the weak links you are unable to strengthen.

[DDDsDD999]

For a lot of us though, the lawspeaker is a meaningless title, and goes no further than the poor soul tasked with oathing people around.

I wish this wasn't true. A lot of actual lawspeakers are just alts, and no one is really in charge.

Usually the people with LS (or chief) access are considered the "inner-group". It's an interesting dynamic that the real game system doesn't allow mechanically. I hope in hafen there's more mechanics to design your own village organization and hierarchies.