Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et al.

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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby joojoo1975 » Sat Sep 05, 2026 6:32 pm

because this game doesn't need to mimic real life that much.

It's a game, most of us wish for even footing
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby abt79 » Sat Sep 05, 2026 6:49 pm

if a sploit exists, anyone can use it.
So long as they can uncover it… but that’s just the Joy of Discovery, isn’t it?
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby Ardennesss » Sat Sep 05, 2026 7:41 pm

Nictos wrote:Jorb making his own discord for haven would solve 75% of it already.


Ah yes, the people who created the very cesspool forum we're currently communicating on would surely do better managing a discord instead. :roll:
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby azrid » Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:13 pm

Heres a little tip for you beginner exploiters.
Use exploits against people who wont complain and nothing will happen to you.
Bonus points if you avoid people who are friends with devs.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby Zachary09 » Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:36 pm

Nictos wrote:Before I take my long break I just want say this Charlie is the next to be dealt with. Deal with him, Racon (black market head), and the “official discord” AKA Chaos HQ and this community has a chance to blossom again. (...) Jorb making his own discord for haven would solve 75% of it already. (...)


Why? Discord servers exist on a completely detached network. If you dislike a server or its' administration, leave it. As far as I'm aware the first unofficial-official Haven&Hearth Discord server is still active. What stops you from creating a third server? What stops you from using the first one?
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby joojoo1975 » Sun Sep 06, 2026 12:50 am

abt79 wrote:if a sploit exists, anyone can use it.


Funny, people use this line of explanation for botting as well.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby abt79 » Sun Sep 06, 2026 3:09 pm

yep, that also applies also :P

Do you want Even Footing, or do you want everybody to play a hypothetical version of the game that doesn’t even de facto exist (and kinda never has), because that feels fairer to you?

Ender has bots. Hell, default client does, if you wanna go there.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby WowGain » Sun Sep 06, 2026 10:52 pm

Why are you and Loftar always so bad at testing edge cases. This seems like an incredibly simple thing to check.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby Regulus2424 » Sun Sep 06, 2026 11:01 pm

I wonder if J&L have ever finished a dungeon without devmode. :clueless:
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Joy of Discovery vs. Snail et a

Postby abt79 » Mon Sep 07, 2026 2:42 am

WowGain wrote:edge

a good xtian boy would never
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