Prelude: World 16.1

[Mr_Bober]

Also removes a way for giant, massive zerg groups to be 100% safe as long as they are within distance of their safewall. It's hard to balance the two.

Worth it.

Over the years I've played with a lot of people. Some do PvP, most don't.
Out of all of them, pretty much everyone has experienced being attacked while outside. And guess what?
The only ones who usually manage to run and survive long enough to get to an airlock were the PvP guys. Everyone else gets KOed way before reaching an airlock, unless caught literally just outside the airlock (some got KOed even in that case ).

I don't know if this change will be good or bad, but at least it's a step towards shaking things up on the PvP side. I'm all for trying stuff that will make PvP more risky for everyone, as right now it only fucks with newbies and PvErs while leaving everyone who's actually involved virtually unkillable.

[_Scipio]

They better read this whole thread and implement some good ideas.

[TemuSoldier]

cum

lol dumbass

[Schwarzvald]

cum

dumpster

[Schwarzvald]

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=44710

Are the things outlined by the developers in this thread still true, and if not how are they different? If they are not different have they made any significant PVP changes in the past 10+ years???

[Zephroze]

https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=44710

Are the things outlined by the developers in this thread still true, and if not how are they different? If they are not different have they made any significant PVP changes in the past 10+ years???

Do I really have to spell it out for you?

[Apocoreo]

pretty much everyone has experienced being attacked while outside.

See, I started this game thinking this was the point.

Do people complain about this in Rust?

I bet they would in DayZ and Arc Raiders if they had a robust base building system.

Big "dont attack me, I'm trying something!" energy, except it's forever, not one quick thing.

[Zephroze]

pretty much everyone has experienced being attacked while outside.

See, I started this game thinking this was the point.

Do people complain about this in Rust?

I bet they would in DayZ and Arc Raiders if they had a robust base building system.

Big "dont attack me, I'm trying something!" energy, except it's forever, not one quick thing.

In rust it's like every 10 minutes, in Haven it's like every 10 weeks, if that.

I'm not really concerned about it myself, it's whatever. I just want the opt-in PVP permadeath mechanics to work properly. Devs set a precedent that if you don't get Murder you can only be KO'd and it doesn't work that way against people with low con who don't have zig-zag which is basically where the majority of these complaints come from.

I'm a hunter so it's not necessarily a problem for me and I haven't died yet, but as a newbie trainer I've experienced it vicariously 10 times in world 16 alone.

[Zephroze]

pretty much everyone has experienced being attacked while outside.

See, I started this game thinking this was the point.

Do people complain about this in Rust?

I bet they would in DayZ and Arc Raiders if they had a robust base building system.

Big "dont attack me, I'm trying something!" energy, except it's forever, not one quick thing.

In rust it's like every 10 minutes, in Haven it's like every 10 weeks, if that.

I'm not really concerned about it myself, it's whatever. I just want the opt-in PVP permadeath mechanics to work properly. Devs set a precedent that if you don't get Murder you can only be KO'd and it doesn't work that way against people with low con who don't have zig-zag which is basically where the majority of these complaints come from.

I'm a hunter so it's not necessarily a problem for me and I haven't died yet (to PVP, just stupidity/tiredness), but as a newbie trainer I've experienced it vicariously 10 times in world 16 alone.

[SnuggleSnail]

I know its been argued to death, and I'm not interested in arguing about it again... But, man I REALLY cannot comprehend why anybody is here after the first 25hours of novelty if not for the excitement/risk. I'm pretty sure you nerds just don't understand your own motivations or why you find things fun.