A Plea for Moderation

[WowGain]

bro that signature is the essence of geocities

shitting on the peak aesthetic of the internet is wild
i feel like 1 gif is a lot less imposing than like 15 lines that just make every post you type take up 25% more of the webpage even if you post three words

[sabinati]

May I at the least know how long this curfew will last?

I think it's been long enough

[caz]

@pills

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The slur

[mulamishne]

@pills

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The slur

I reported this after the conversation we had last night and I realize it wasn't in good faith that I was doing so, and regret it. However it does lead to me believe that perhaps that maybe the devs don't have the same views as you.

[Pills]

wonder how well Loftar would take a warning

Afterall, Jorb wrote the rules which links to wikipedia's Hate Speech which clearly lists "disability" so.... yeah idk.

Nobody has told me off for any of the warnings/bans i've handed out yet atleast, but who knows. I do feel the forum is atleast starting to be a bit more chilled out though in general?

[waga]

Dont bring the americanism bullshit of censoring words like retarded on this forum
Thank you very much.

[mulamishne]

wonder how well Loftar would take a warning

Afterall, Jorb wrote the rules which links to wikipedia's Hate Speech which clearly lists "disability" so.... yeah idk.

Nobody has told me off for any of the warnings/bans i've handed out yet atleast, but who knows. I do feel the forum is atleast starting to be a bit more chilled out though in general?

Its been calmer for sure, but world start does do that. Once people start getting bored (or snekkjas, faster travel to be dickheads) it might pick up a bit more though.

[waga]

Alright I already replied but I went to bed pissed of and after a good night sleep Im still pissed.
So you fucked up and fucked up good.
You banned someoned 1 day because he used the word retarded , then came across a post of Loftar using the same word, decided to double and triple down instead while questioning ironically if you should warn him too ( by your logic you should ban him 1 day btw).

You decided to check the wiki , not knowing exactly what hate speech refer to I imagine , and instead of reading the first line , you decided to choose the second one, specific to the us , for whatever reason.
Probably to fit your narative?
Because NO , in the same link you gave yourself it doesnt clearly lists "disability" no.

Hate speech is a term with varied meaning and has no single, consistent definition. It is defined by the Cambridge Dictionary as "public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation"

It's the very first line , no consisent definition.
And guess what Jorb and Loftar are swede not American , and more likely to follow the Cambridge definition than the american one.

Words are words , they're just tools.
A words doesnt hate , it's the idea behind it which does.
When the user you banned call his mate retarded , he's CLEARLY have a laugh with him, and not hating him , or hating stupid people.
Come on now.
In the same vein when people call each other autistic, they dont hate autism , they use a tool to describe something everyone and their mom who have spent 2 min on the internet know what refers to, you know , the purpose of words.

I understand you're seeking validation , you're new to the task , it's humane.
It's also a natural reaction to be defensive and double down.
But come on now, when you see the admin using the very same word you banned someone for , maybe it's time to apologise aye?
And not double down like you did?
that's what make good moderator , accepting their mistakes, something previous moderator have failed to do.

Yes I'm pissed as fuck of that non sense american puritanism try to impose to the world , but overall I do think you do a good job.
Even if my words are harsh here.

[Pills]

For what its worth, it wasn't that "i decided to check the wiki", that is what Jorb linked in his forum rules post directly.

I, personally, am also from Europe and 'retard' is very much considered hate speech where I live which is why I also view it as such. There is however the obvious problem of myself being allowed to moderate 'as i see fit' but then that being contradicted by one of the devs. But even on the first sentence on the wikiquoting cambridge, does say "such as" as in, not an exhaustive list. I would still argue derogitave terms against mental aptitiude or disability would be hateful.

The problem here is that I personally would prefer to triple down and suggest people just shouldn't use that word in particular, however if Loftar wants to use it nonchalantly then clearly I can't enforce against people using it in the same vein as racism.

to answer, I don't know the correct way to proceed with this personally and i'm waiting to see if Jorb or Loftar chime in on it.

[waga]

They already did, Loftar use the word retarded nonchalantly.

Would you be perfectly fine with us using the word regarded like it's becoming the norm everywhere? (and never moderated because the R word wasnt used !!!§§§)
Do you see the hypocrisy or not?
Damn it this insanity piss me off so much