In rust it's like every 10 minutes, in Haven it's like every 10 weeks, if that.
I'm not really concerned about it myself, it's whatever. I just want the opt-in PVP permadeath mechanics to work properly. Devs set a precedent that if you don't get Murder you can only be KO'd and it doesn't work that way against people with low con who don't have zig-zag which is basically where the majority of these complaints come from.
I'm a hunter so it's not necessarily a problem for me and I haven't died yet (to PVP, just stupidity/tiredness), but as a newbie trainer I've experienced it vicariously 10 times in world 16 alone.

