A Plea for Moderation

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby The_Lich_King » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:39 am

pbbllt wrote:
"Nooooo, it's you who's projecting, you are wrong (can't say why) and an idiot (also can't say why), also it's completely baseless and inaccurate so stop crying, snowflake"
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Every post you make literally serves as a proof of what I wrote in the first place. People like you cannot change because they vehemently refuse any distortion in their worldview and see it as a threat to be discredited, shamed, gaslit, derailed and so on.

You say I'm an idiot because you want me to be and not because of what I say. I highly doubt you even read my posts, this sort of behavior you are presenting is usually intuitive among your kind. Especially if met with support of fellow kinsmen, just like @nobleranger guy that couldn't even get together proper insult (well, he can't anyway. after all he has to comply with hate speech rules lmao).



I say you are an idiot bercause you are an idiot... you see this is incompatible with your worldview so you need to project it onto me but let me lay down my argument as for why... First you didn't seem to understand my point when i initially said that Hate Speech is entirely what the Devs decide it to be...

pbbllt wrote:
Standard "I can't refute it properly, but I disagree and you are stupid" reply. No wonder my reply numbed your mind, even 1x1x1 Rubik's cube would numb you into coma should you come into physical contact with it.

Let me get that through your soylent hardened, slop plated skull to your flawless smooth, hippocampless, prefrontal lacking, motor function sustaining, trace of a brain:



You say 'i can't refute it' but me saying 'Hate Speech is relative and the Devs decide what it is' is not just a refutation of your argument that it doesn't exist but is also a refutation of this point

pbbllt wrote:
Hate speech is fake, it's a tool to exact borderline behavior patterns "you are either with us or against us". Nobody ever fucking even asks "can it be RELATIVE?" because if you do, then you aren't conforming, thus are against.

It's always like this, innit? You come in, state what is right and what is wrong and then start shitting on anyone not conforming to your rule set of acceptable behavior. And when you run out of arguments, you resort to manipulation to gain moral (from your (wrong) point of view) justification.



I am literally aggreeing that it in fact can be relative. Which is why when i initially worded my original post AND in every post afterwards i said i was asking the Devs if its okay... not implying that it is not, i do not know where they draw the line on Slurs. in most MMOs slurs are considerd hate speech. The devs want to regulate Hate Speech now so i am not sure where they lay on the issue of slurs hence why i brought it up. In addition, i call you a snowflake for good reason... examine this


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Let me get that through your soylent hardened, slop plated skull to your flawless smooth, hippocampless, prefrontal lacking, motor function sustaining, trace of a brain:



You are offended as hell and have to resort to a flurry of insults then project and say that i am the one who has to do this. I believe you insinuated in your comment suggested that me 'supporting' nobleranger was reinforcing my biased opinions out of touch with reality due to a tribal affiliation of views with nobleranger.

Yet you are the ones that came out of the gate with terms such as "your kind" 'this is how you people think' you came to the defense when you saw Hate Speech be mentioned because of a similarity of views with the original poster and then tried to make it about tribalism to enforce your own worldview which is out of touch with reality.

This is why i say you are projecting. You are accusing me of that which you are guilty,

I say you are an idiot because you are not self-aware enough to see that,

and i say you are a snowflake because you got offended about something that literally didn't impact you at all and have been devolving it every step of the way.

Its hilarious that you say my posts only prove your point because every time you have posted i have felt the same thing... I guess this is another case of autism to autism communication as Vatas puts it, and i wonder if the entire convo will be moderated out. (It should be because most of this convo has nothing to do about moderation) In hindsight my biggest issue was taking you seriously at all, something i will rectify in future when dealing with trolls.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Apocoreo » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:52 am

Edit: wrong thread

Edit: Edit: I'm entirely on the side of whoever didn't post a basic bitch feel guy meme unironically lmao
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby nobleranger » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:20 am

The_Lich_King wrote:
Dear god you just fed him. Now he isn't going to shut up for weeks.


I did? You called they\them a snowflake lmao , omg pretty sure its gonna hate that

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby nobleranger » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:35 am

pagsiu wrote:
nobleranger wrote:
pbbllt wrote: Hate Speech

Are you a 70 year old Fox News Dad?
Cuz you sound like a 70 year old Fox News Dad

Argumentum ad personam. A classic. He's right and you just can't refute him using cogent argumentation.


ok so here the thing, I'ma say this before a mod or someone else gets mad for mucking up a moderation thread, and this is directed towards you, pbbllt and any other racist bigot piece of shit that drinks from the same poisoned well, and I will make it in all caps so it is the first thing your eyes are drawn too because its just the most important bit don't worry about the rest to save you the trouble

NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR HOW YOU SAY IT, YOUR ARGUMENT THAT HATE SPEECH OR HATRED TOWARDS OTHERS IS NOT REAL AND WAS CREATED JUST TO INFRINGE ON YOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES IS HORSESHIT YOU MAKE UP TO JUSTIFY YOUR BEHAVIOR. THERE IS NO ARGUMENT. I WILL NOT MAKE IT. YOU ARE LITERALLY THE ONLY HATEFUL THING HERE.

I don't need to refute any of this absolute nonsense, if you were to take this to the streets you would hear the same. Garbage is garbage. throw it away.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby waga » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:15 am

I'm not reding all that crap.
The fuck is the F word now? :D
Oh I might know , an HnH insult clssic to be fair.

And why does Lich King spend so much time on the forum instead of playing , because a few days ago he was still 50 stater according to him, and it's not very good mate.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Kaios » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:48 pm

NekoBah wrote:Yas, i meow hope SnuggleLove will read this, and realise how wrong SHE is, then just give Misa a bigg kiss, and everyone will be happy


Why is this user not banned after making this stupid thread? https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77105

They are both a blatantly stupid/unfunny troll and stirring up drama on the forums with an alt. Ban their main account too please. Thanks.

One other thing to note is that other than Dwarves & Thieves the forum language is English. Perhaps threads not in that subforum that are written in unknown languages or are barely legible should receive some moderation as well.

waga wrote:And why does Lich King spend so much time on the forum instead of playing , because a few days ago he was still 50 stater according to him, and it's not very good mate.


Not too long ago around when I hit 9000 posts, he was telling me and someone else to spend less time on the forum. Fair enough but those giving advice should try to follow their own lol
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby pagsiu » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:07 pm

nobleranger wrote:
ok so here the thing, I'ma say this before a mod or someone else gets mad for mucking up a moderation thread, and this is directed towards you, pbbllt and any other racist bigot piece of shit that drinks from the same poisoned well, and I will make it in all caps so it is the first thing your eyes are drawn too because its just the most important bit don't worry about the rest to save you the trouble

NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR HOW YOU SAY IT, YOUR ARGUMENT THAT HATE SPEECH OR HATRED TOWARDS OTHERS IS NOT REAL AND WAS CREATED JUST TO INFRINGE ON YOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES IS HORSESHIT YOU MAKE UP TO JUSTIFY YOUR BEHAVIOR. THERE IS NO ARGUMENT. I WILL NOT MAKE IT. YOU ARE LITERALLY THE ONLY HATEFUL THING HERE.

I don't need to refute any of this absolute nonsense, if you were to take this to the streets you would hear the same. Garbage is garbage. throw it away.

Oh God, this is so funny. Protecting the hate speech, then using it towards me, calling me a piece of shit and throwing me to the same bag with racists while I wasn't racist at all. You are literally blind from raging over some dumb forum post. Take a deep breath dude, stress kills. Also, still zero arguments given, so your point is dismissed.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby The_Lich_King » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:27 pm

Kaios wrote:
NekoBah wrote:Yas, i meow hope SnuggleLove will read this, and realise how wrong SHE is, then just give Misa a bigg kiss, and everyone will be happy


Why is this user not banned after making this stupid thread? https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77105

They are both a blatantly stupid/unfunny troll and stirring up drama on the forums with an alt. Ban their main account too please. Thanks.

One other thing to note is that other than Dwarves & Thieves the forum language is English. Perhaps threads not in that subforum that are written in unknown languages or are barely legible should receive some moderation as well.

waga wrote:And why does Lich King spend so much time on the forum instead of playing , because a few days ago he was still 50 stater according to him, and it's not very good mate.


Not too long ago around when I hit 9000 posts, he was telling me and someone else to spend less time on the forum. Fair enough but those giving advice should try to follow their own lol


You know fair... the forums are a shitshow, I think everyone would do well to be on them less.

Primary reason I am here so much is i can use my phone st my job so the forum shitshow serves as entertainment :>
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby The_Lich_King » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:05 pm

waga wrote:I'm not reding all that crap.
The fuck is the F word now? :D
Oh I might know , an HnH insult clssic to be fair.

And why does Lich King spend so much time on the forum instead of playing , because a few days ago he was still 50 stater according to him, and it's not very good mate.


I think I've made it clear in most of my posts I am dogshit at the game : D

TBH I don't really care to be super good i just enjoy the Hermit life, although id be much further ahead if I didn't have some major setbacks irl which led to me being totally inactive 1 week and nearly inactive for another.... also not being able to forage at all for nearly a month now hasn't helped tbh but all of that is irrelevant because it would make no difference since I do not want or care to put in the amount of time into the game it takes to be up to world standard.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby pbbllt » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:07 pm

The_Lich_King wrote:
pbbllt wrote:
"Nooooo, it's you who's projecting, you are wrong (can't say why) and an idiot (also can't say why), also it's completely baseless and inaccurate so stop crying, snowflake"
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Every post you make literally serves as a proof of what I wrote in the first place. People like you cannot change because they vehemently refuse any distortion in their worldview and see it as a threat to be discredited, shamed, gaslit, derailed and so on.

You say I'm an idiot because you want me to be and not because of what I say. I highly doubt you even read my posts, this sort of behavior you are presenting is usually intuitive among your kind. Especially if met with support of fellow kinsmen, just like @nobleranger guy that couldn't even get together proper insult (well, he can't anyway. after all he has to comply with hate speech rules lmao).



I say you are an idiot bercause you are an idiot... you see this is incompatible with your worldview so you need to project it onto me but let me lay down my argument as for why... First you didn't seem to understand my point when i initially said that Hate Speech is entirely what the Devs decide it to be...

pbbllt wrote:
Standard "I can't refute it properly, but I disagree and you are stupid" reply. No wonder my reply numbed your mind, even 1x1x1 Rubik's cube would numb you into coma should you come into physical contact with it.

Let me get that through your soylent hardened, slop plated skull to your flawless smooth, hippocampless, prefrontal lacking, motor function sustaining, trace of a brain:



You say 'i can't refute it' but me saying 'Hate Speech is relative and the Devs decide what it is' is not just a refutation of your argument that it doesn't exist but is also a refutation of this point

pbbllt wrote:
Hate speech is fake, it's a tool to exact borderline behavior patterns "you are either with us or against us". Nobody ever fucking even asks "can it be RELATIVE?" because if you do, then you aren't conforming, thus are against.

It's always like this, innit? You come in, state what is right and what is wrong and then start shitting on anyone not conforming to your rule set of acceptable behavior. And when you run out of arguments, you resort to manipulation to gain moral (from your (wrong) point of view) justification.



I am literally aggreeing that it in fact can be relative. Which is why when i initially worded my original post AND in every post afterwards i said i was asking the Devs if its okay... not implying that it is not, i do not know where they draw the line on Slurs. in most MMOs slurs are considerd hate speech. The devs want to regulate Hate Speech now so i am not sure where they lay on the issue of slurs hence why i brought it up. In addition, i call you a snowflake for good reason... examine this


pbbllt wrote:
Let me get that through your soylent hardened, slop plated skull to your flawless smooth, hippocampless, prefrontal lacking, motor function sustaining, trace of a brain:



You are offended as hell and have to resort to a flurry of insults then project and say that i am the one who has to do this. I believe you insinuated in your comment suggested that me 'supporting' nobleranger was reinforcing my biased opinions out of touch with reality due to a tribal affiliation of views with nobleranger.

Yet you are the ones that came out of the gate with terms such as "your kind" 'this is how you people think' you came to the defense when you saw Hate Speech be mentioned because of a similarity of views with the original poster and then tried to make it about tribalism to enforce your own worldview which is out of touch with reality.

This is why i say you are projecting. You are accusing me of that which you are guilty,

I say you are an idiot because you are not self-aware enough to see that,

and i say you are a snowflake because you got offended about something that literally didn't impact you at all and have been devolving it every step of the way.

Its hilarious that you say my posts only prove your point because every time you have posted i have felt the same thing... I guess this is another case of autism to autism communication as Vatas puts it, and i wonder if the entire convo will be moderated out. (It should be because most of this convo has nothing to do about moderation) In hindsight my biggest issue was taking you seriously at all, something i will rectify in future when dealing with trolls.


"no, u" vibe hard, lol

Still no arguments.
Still the same manipulation.
Still the same mentality.

Just as I said, you won't even consider any other point of view because you are absolutely sure that nothing else is correct. You simply cannot comprehend doubt, and if you tried it would undermine your stance, making you (in your view) seem weak and stupid, but at the same time not doing it does exactly that by exposing your fragile mentality. Asking you "what if hitler was right about jews?" od "do homosexuals reealy need special treatment in law and public space?" would be immediately met with extreme hostility I presume, not even allowing hypothetical context.

Also, what the fuck is up with you capitalizing "Hate Speech" or "Slurs", are you writing from some kind of templates? I kinda don't think you are AI at this point, they aren't bright, but not this retarded.

nobleranger wrote:ok so here the thing, I'ma say this before a mod or someone else gets mad for mucking up a moderation thread, and this is directed towards you, pbbllt and any other racist bigot piece of shit that drinks from the same poisoned well, and I will make it in all caps so it is the first thing your eyes are drawn too because its just the most important bit don't worry about the rest to save you the trouble

NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR HOW YOU SAY IT, YOUR ARGUMENT THAT HATE SPEECH OR HATRED TOWARDS OTHERS IS NOT REAL AND WAS CREATED JUST TO INFRINGE ON YOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES IS HORSESHIT YOU MAKE UP TO JUSTIFY YOUR BEHAVIOR. THERE IS NO ARGUMENT. I WILL NOT MAKE IT. YOU ARE LITERALLY THE ONLY HATEFUL THING HERE.

I don't need to refute any of this absolute nonsense, if you were to take this to the streets you would hear the same. Garbage is garbage. throw it away.


Of course, again, the collectivism "any other racist bigot". Why so much hate speech, fam? Literally every single time; "your intolerance will not be tolerated" flip.

I never said hatred towards others is not real, I very much hate retards like you so there's that. But hate speech is a fucking scam for you to overuse in attempt to silence people up using social pressure.
Give me any counterarguments or shut the fuck up, it's not like it will grow back and stop smelling if you loudly spew even more lies and deception on the internet, get over it or kys.
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