abt79 wrote:uhhhhh, Whales?
just let us beat up whales with swords and axes from a boat like people did historically
Bows sucking and whales being dumb aside, meleeing a whale, ever, makes zero sense. It can exist as a stopgap solution but it's going to have to go at some point.
jordancoles wrote:or ask the community for potential fixes to these kinds of problems
You know there's
a whole subforum for that? There's
11 pages of discussion about potential fixes there. Arguably the devs picked the wrong solution here, but some pretty major arguments brought up now weren't being brought up before this update.
algeralith wrote:You say that, but then you also keep touting that you can fire with bows from the boat.
Is that not the same thing? Instead of UA/MC it's a bow. Having 10 people with a bow on a single boat is a force multiplier.
It's not as massive of a difference as an additional 9 melee attackers, though; the way quantity of attackers works with the openings system means you you receive absolutely massive damage if they attack well (raise opening to insane level, then perform high-damage attack).
algeralith wrote:Nearly everyone is in unanimous agreement that unconscious bodies should prevent a boat from being bashed. And yet, we still have not seen that change.
It is one of the most obvious, and agreeable changes that could be done.
Unbashable objects are never obvious, agreeable changes. Under current mechanics, this would let you form an indestructible wall in the water by putting alts in dugouts and KOing them yourself. There are various possible ways to counter that, but all have their potential problems to consider. 'Just don't let boats with unconscious bodies be bashed' is the exact same kind of solution as 'just don't let people perform attacks while on ships'.