A Plea for Moderation

[Kaios]

I want people to be free to be assholes in my full loot pvp survival game. The whole appeal is that people can virtually do whatever they want within the games limits. This has been one of the biggest selling points of Haven for YEARS.

huh? "doing whatever you want" is the main appeal of any sandbox game.

Why (with only minor exceptions) should the forums be any different?
Also why do all of you put so much value in the moderation of a forum that maybe get 10 to 30 posts a day when the actual game itself is filled to the brim with stuff FAAAAR worse than what we can post here.

I do think the type of rhetoric I assume you're referencing is just as bad whether it's on the forum or in-game. However, I would think it's more difficult to manage in-game moderation than it is to handle moderation on the forum. I did bring up a similar topic before though:

I didn't mean bad words are the only issue when I mentioned mature content. Another example, what is stopping anyone from uploading goatse and putting that on a snekkja or knarr sail? Do the devs have a method to monitor or filter the images that get uploaded and used in-game? Pretty sure it's a crime to expose a minor to pornography.

Doesn't seem like a good idea to allow players to upload images of QR codes either or other suspect content which might lead to theft of personal information or malware. I guess custom clients/workshop content sort of relates to that as well, but that's a separate issue.

Why does any of this effect you all so much. Why can't you just smile and go "Wow that's super dumb and you're retarded" to whoever you disagree with and move on?

Says the guy that was just on a campaign to get someone banned not only from the forum but the game as well. Right back at you buddy.

[Austinh15]

Remember when I said that there are legit cases where someone must be moderated? Child endangerment is something I consider to be within that bucket. Sorry if you don't agree.

[joojoo1975]

stuff

So let me ask you this?

Have you reported anything to https://report.cybertip.org/reporting

Have you reported anything to https://cyberbullying.org/report

Have you reported anything to https://www.unicef.org/lac/en/helplines ... f-violence


Now for a game stance: If i am not correct, you all know where misa is base wise? Have you all went over there and begun to siege that village?

I mean you were helping out Snail and others no? How many times is he going to have to post before you all turn on him?

[sabinati]

if yall don't shut the fuck up youre gonna get some early christmas presents

[Kaios]

Remember when I said that there are legit cases where someone must be moderated? Child endangerment is something I consider to be within that bucket. Sorry if you don't agree.

I thought my previous point made it fairly obvious that I agree. I don't see why that should not extend to other forms of vitriolic behaviour as well.

You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Either you want stricter moderation or you don't, but leaving it up to "moderator discretion" leads to ambiguous interpretations of what little rules there are and arbitrary punishments that vary wildly in terms of length and harshness based on personal whim. Great example of that right above this post.

If there were actually some sort of real set of rules in place it wouldn't have been necessary for you or anyone else to bother taking it upon yourselves to do all that because there would be a formal basis through which moderation could rely on to enact sufficient punishment. In other words, rules that explicitly state what is prohibited and the levels of warning and/or punishment related to them.

if yall don't shut the fuck up youre gonna get some early christmas presents

bro did u really log in just to say shut up? lol

[The_Lich_King]

Remember when I said that there are legit cases where someone must be moderated? Child endangerment is something I consider to be within that bucket. Sorry if you don't agree.

I thought my previous point made it fairly obvious that I agree. I don't see why that should not extend to other forms of vitriolic behaviour as well.

You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Either you want stricter moderation or you don't, but leaving it up to "moderator discretion" leads to ambiguous interpretations of what little rules there are and arbitrary punishments that vary wildly in terms of length and harshness based on personal whim. Great example of that right above this post.

If there were actually some sort of real set of rules in place it wouldn't have been necessary for you or anyone else to bother taking it upon yourselves to do all that because there would be a formal basis through which moderation could rely on to enact sufficient punishment. In other words, rules that explicitly state what is prohibited and the levels of warning and/or punishment related to them.

if yall don't shut the fuck up youre gonna get some early christmas presents

bro did u really log in just to say shut up? lol

TBH i am in favor of stricter moderation in general at this point...

[sabinati]

Remember when I said that there are legit cases where someone must be moderated? Child endangerment is something I consider to be within that bucket. Sorry if you don't agree.

I thought my previous point made it fairly obvious that I agree. I don't see why that should not extend to other forms of vitriolic behaviour as well.

You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Either you want stricter moderation or you don't, but leaving it up to "moderator discretion" leads to ambiguous interpretations of what little rules there are and arbitrary punishments that vary wildly in terms of length and harshness based on personal whim. Great example of that right above this post.

If there were actually some sort of real set of rules in place it wouldn't have been necessary for you or anyone else to bother taking it upon yourselves to do all that because there would be a formal basis through which moderation could rely on to enact sufficient punishment. In other words, rules that explicitly state what is prohibited and the levels of warning and/or punishment related to them.

if yall don't shut the fuck up youre gonna get some early christmas presents

bro did u really log in just to say shut up? lol

no but after careful consideration, shut up. stop arguing about shit in here.

[Kaios]

no but after careful consideration, shut up. stop arguing about shit in here.

Who is arguing? This is the plea for moderation thread.

Moderators moderate at their own discretion, and may enforce rules opportunistically. This is the thread where you give them feedback on their moderation, for good or for bad.

Am I not allowed to give feedback? As a moderator for this forum, do you think it is appropriate for you to be censoring such discussions? Have I broken any rules? Anyways I already knew and often stated how poor of a moderator you are, glad to see you proving me right. Learn to quote properly too that was another point I brought up.

[SnuggleSnail]

sabinati based??? merry crimbus

[Kaios]

sabinati based??? merry crimbus

Omg at least let me fix my typos b4 u post u little turd