Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby Fostik » Wed Jan 07, 2026 11:40 am

Zachary09 wrote:Do you know if this works with wrecking balls? Last I checked during W11 or W12 it didn't allow me to fix palisade damaged by it


You can't place wrecking ball to siege someone anymore.
You also can't keep repairing palisade as there's a cooldown between repairs.
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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby Zachary09 » Wed Jan 07, 2026 11:43 am

Fostik wrote:You can't place wrecking ball to siege someone anymore.


What do you mean? Do game mechanics disallow that?
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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby vipes » Wed Jan 07, 2026 11:49 am

Bug abuse is explicitly allowed by the devs: "report before you 'sploit" When did that turn into "never under any circumstances 'sploit"?

At this point it's not even clear what the rules around bug abuse are. Is 'sploiting OK or not OK? What's the official way to report a 'sploit? We need a massive clarification from the devs here before we start handing out permabans.

BTW I'm a PvE'er who's been raided by both snail and his victims here. I don't really have a dog in this fight.
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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby Fostik » Wed Jan 07, 2026 11:50 am

Zachary09 wrote:
What do you mean? Do game mechanics disallow that?


Yes, here is notes
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=73773&p=913166
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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby Zachary09 » Wed Jan 07, 2026 11:53 am

Fostik wrote:
Zachary09 wrote:
What do you mean? Do game mechanics disallow that?


Yes, here is notes
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=73773&p=913166


thanks, I had no idea about this change
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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby Zachary09 » Wed Jan 07, 2026 11:54 am

vipes wrote:What's the official way to report a 'sploit?


PM to the devs (ideally both, maybe in the same PM). You aren't obligated to publicly disclose the bugs you report directly over forum PM.
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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby Stoneface » Wed Jan 07, 2026 12:05 pm

Came by to laugh again at all the malding, nice job Jorbtar! :lol:
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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby ChomikBBT » Wed Jan 07, 2026 12:38 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:Jorbtar did not intervene in any of the cases you described except for the well.


All of this is entirely irrelevant, however. If I should've been banned for those things, then I should've been banned for those things.
Depriving somebody of an inventory of paintings for less than 8 hours and reporting two visitor bypasses in a week should (very obviously) not result in a ban.



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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby Detharon » Wed Jan 07, 2026 12:59 pm

vipes wrote:Bug abuse is explicitly allowed by the devs: "report before you 'sploit" When did that turn into "never under any circumstances 'sploit"?

At this point it's not even clear what the rules around bug abuse are. Is 'sploiting OK or not OK? What's the official way to report a 'sploit? We need a massive clarification from the devs here before we start handing out permabans.

BTW I'm a PvE'er who's been raided by both snail and his victims here. I don't really have a dog in this fight.

In which game can you exploit bugs just because you reported them before? Come on. Do you really need to have everything clarified?

It’s common sense that bug exploiting is never okay. Doing it repeatedly, world after world, actively harming the community, is even worse. The only thing that surprises me is how many years it took to take an action.
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Re: Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

Postby strpk0 » Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:28 pm

>the contract says "do this and we're cool" -> "report bugs and its fine to exploit them"
>does what the contract says
>"wow it obviously doesnt work like that anywhere why would you expect it to work like that, do you really need to have everything clarified?"
>bans the player
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