Game Development: Fighting Quail

[mstya]

*le sigh*

No.

The previous battle system was really good, the error was only in OPKnock. Naked Alts simply could spam them with impunity and open you too much, you need just had to make it dependent on ua and everyone would be satisfied

the new combat system is too unworked, with the proper skill to survive and keep distance with the enemy, it is simply impossible to get damage, only mass battles make sense ... and it seems to be somewhat strange

[Kaios]

I think it's rather difficult to get a natural testing experience out of a new combat system in a world that already has far too many titans with insane stats, in terms of both PvE and PvP.

[Ozzy123]

I think it's rather difficult to get a natural testing experience out of a new combat system in a world that already has far too many titans with insane stats, in terms of both PvE and PvP.

b-but you know that when 10k stats chars fight 10k stats chars there is no difference as if these were 100 stats chars fighting 100 stats chars? xd

[MagicManICT]

I think it's rather difficult to get a natural testing experience out of a new combat system in a world that already has far too many titans with insane stats, in terms of both PvE and PvP.

I rather agree with you, but as it's a "work in progress," I think that players sparring with each other with developed characters might be better than completely new day-1 characters for getting the details worked out. As far as the ramping up of how combat is going to work from the start... I think it will need a complete one-over to see how things work once a new world starts (assuming we ever get another restart).

[Kaios]

b-but you know that when 10k stats chars fight 10k stats chars there is no difference as if these were 100 stats chars fighting 100 stats chars? xd

Uh if you think there's no difference between having 100 hp and 2k hp you would be wrong even if the players fighting both have 2k hp. The same could be said for almost any stat, you're obviously getting different metrics than in a more balanced world.

I do agree with MagicMan though I suppose it does serve a good purpose to have stronger characters testing things out as well but I do think in a new world we will likely not see characters with these high stats again if Jorb and Loftar have been listening.

[ven]

Were there any changes to ranged combat?

[abt79]

Were there any changes to ranged combat?

No because see that was already unusable, jorb and loftar wanted to make melee and ua unusable as well (along with armor)

[sebacame]

Ok so here we have a dedicated community willing to have a balanced and fun combat system. It would help tremendously to have you guys (jorb and loftar) tell us about what kind of feeling you wanna achieve with the combat.
Do you want to make it faster, slower, have each move have an impact or have high-tier moves, beginner friendly, have a more skill or strategic focus on it, anything particular thing you want to achieve? It would greatly help to know that if you want some feedback in ways to improve it

[IngloriouslyBad]

I feel like 30 second sideswipe cool down is kinda... meh... Well in general all sword skills are meh atm. Welp. Time to start an unarmed character and spam punch and KITO.

Side Note: I have never PVP'd , only kill the animals so far. So... taking 2 minutes to kill a fox opposed to previously being able to kill them in 2 seconds is eh... Kinda silly.

[Sylmarin]

I'd like to give my 2 cents as a "newbie".

MY char atm has 60 agi, 60 uc and 30 mc
Using some leather armor that gives in total 32/26 defense.

Before the update i usually fought using a pair of shield and spamming punch. I could kill foxes without receiving damage, badgers and wolverines with little damage and boars easily too, but with some damage, like 30 total.
I tried fighting using an axe, but maybe because of some rookie mistake it was horrible. As my only melee moves where Raven's bite and Quick Barrage it was quite awful to get IPs to them use Raven's bite, since quick barrage gives red oppenings and raven's use green. I had no other move that gave IP. Now at least for me is a bit easier to use Melee and a bit better them just spamming punch. If i only spam punch the battle the animal will die but i'll take too much damage.

I have four Restorations, feigned dodge, quick dodge, jump and side step. Feigned dodge and jump are kinda okey, quick dodge is utterly useless and side step has a global cooldown too big, the moment i can act again i have the same if not more openings than i had before. So i prefer to go head on fighting, do damage as fast as i can and only use jump and feigned dodge.

Before i could kill a boar taking at max 30 damage to my hp nad i can't do with taking less than 60. But somehow it's even easier to kill weak animal like foxes.