Game Development: World 16.1

[TemuSoldier]

well now hold on, I wouldn’t say world 7 has “active players”

[Schwarzvald]

well now hold on, I wouldn’t say world 7 has “active players”

So why did you mention it; other than being disingenuous.

A PvE continent or world is what people really want. Cater to the same 200 people until they're dead? What's the long term goal here?

[linkfanpc]

What's the long term goal here?

the game they want to make

[Zephroze]

well now hold on, I wouldn’t say world 7 has “active players”

So why did you mention it; other than being disingenuous.

A PvE continent or world is what people really want. Cater to the same 200 people until they're dead? What's the long term goal here?

Do I really have to spell it out for you? My point is this: What do you do on a non-PvP server when someone:

Starts building a village idol to claim the land around you;
Takes ten alts to block the exit of your palisade gate;
Builds a palisade around your claim;
Plants a tight forest all around you, or conversely, cuts down all the trees around you;
Simply stands in your way;
Runs away with the carcass of the animal you just killed; or
Just decides to settle down next to you while you don't like him?

These, and many other conceivable actions, are far easier ways to grief people than is PvP, and PvP is the only thing that keeps them somewhat in check. Therefore, removing PvP results not in less griefing, but in more.

In case it's not obvious, I'm not denying that some people just want to live in peace, and I don't think it would be a bad thing if they could do that. But removing PvP does not result in that.

https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=44710

[Schwarzvald]

well now hold on, I wouldn’t say world 7 has “active players”

So why did you mention it; other than being disingenuous.

A PvE continent or world is what people really want. Cater to the same 200 people until they're dead? What's the long term goal here?

Do I really have to spell it out for you? My point is this: What do you do on a non-PvP server when someone:

Starts building a village idol to claim the land around you;
Takes ten alts to block the exit of your palisade gate;
Builds a palisade around your claim;
Plants a tight forest all around you, or conversely, cuts down all the trees around you;
Simply stands in your way;
Runs away with the carcass of the animal you just killed; or
Just decides to settle down next to you while you don't like him?

These, and many other conceivable actions, are far easier ways to grief people than is PvP, and PvP is the only thing that keeps them somewhat in check. Therefore, removing PvP results not in less griefing, but in more.

In case it's not obvious, I'm not denying that some people just want to live in peace, and I don't think it would be a bad thing if they could do that. But removing PvP does not result in that.

https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=44710

Cool post from ten years ago. Was your point to illustrate a lack of development toward the majority?

Games different; It's in a good state for PVE if they wanted. I was being rude in my innitial reply, i apologize.

[linkfanpc]

Cool post from ten years ago. Was your point to illustrate a lack of interest toward the majority?

ftfy, and yes

[Zephroze]

Every single one of those points is still relevant today. The game is NOT in a good state for PVE, and I'm one of the people who would love to play Haven PVE.

I'm on your side in this matter, I'd love for this to be realistic, but it isn't.

[kalkkar]

The best of luck in World 16.1, and...

ENJOY!

cunts added tape worms WHY GOD WHY

[kalkkar]

thicket thorns too maaan. i mean i get it, grub grub strat was op but thats rough xD

[Skrain]

2025 could have been a lot better development wise. We are hopeful for 2026.

This is true, but only because of a complete lack of communication. From you.
I won't pretend like things are obvious from a balance standpoint, but what is obvious is a nine month silence isn't exactly helpful if you want to become serious about actually developing your game which if i'm being honest. I don't feel like you are anymore. Last world was genuinely nothing worth talking about, and it was supposed to be your big steam launch.