Divine Intervention: Balls Bay et al vs. Dev Team

[Regulus2424]

i agree, ban all weebs

[kalkkar]

frieren is literally rank 1 on MAL somehow

its another 1 of those dogshit 'vibes' anime like mushishi or natsume where nothing happens and its just slow paced and dull but ur supposed to like it cuz its got comfy vibe or something idk, I dont get it

hey now, i was meh with frieren myself but its still a decent watch - tho i can tell by that pfp your a fellow isekai enjoyer

[Einlanser]

You talk about "manufacturing consent" and "digital stakes" because you have the luxury of safety. We are a sheltered child of the modern age playing at being "hard" while sitting in a climate-controlled room.

Nothing has changed? Go back to 1000 BCE. There is no "propaganda" there, only the cold edge of bronze. Imagine being dragged into a clearing because your neighbor wants your grain. There is no trial, no "worthy victim" narrative, just a blunt instrument caving in your skull while you scream into the dirt.

You would be left to rot in a shallow trench, your body bloating in the sun, eyes picked out by crows before your blood even dries. No one will record your "rebellion." No one will remember your name. You aren’t a "witch" fighting the system; you are meat. You are a biological accident in a world that views your agony as background noise.

The "raw cruelty" you romanticize from behind a screen would break you in seconds. You don't live in a cycle of sacrifice—you live in a padded cell of civilization so secure that you’ve forgotten what real terror feels like.

It's even a little sillier than that. The "raw cruelty" they romanticize barely existed.

The species which survives exclusively on its prosocial behaviors has always possessed a majority of prosocial members and a vanishingly small number of antisocial belligerents. Most human lives throughout all of history, forever, enjoyed the comfort, companionship, and protection of their neighbors, free from violence. The times and places where this norm was inverted are so small, in comparison to our time on earth or the land we've inhabited on it during those times, that they barely register.

Even if we take the most pessimistic estimate of our behaviors in pre-history, violence would account for ten percent of deaths. That number is likely substantially lower, as every era of which we have definitive records suggests violence accounts for around 1-3% of deaths, and the better the record, the closer it trends toward 1% or lower.

But we write popular histories about wars and violence, so we presume all of history is one of war and violence.

[Stoneface]

lol been mad about being called a moron 5 years ago....sure, not rent free...

[Sevenless]

You talk about "manufacturing consent" and "digital stakes" because you have the luxury of safety. We are a sheltered child of the modern age playing at being "hard" while sitting in a climate-controlled room.

Nothing has changed? Go back to 1000 BCE. There is no "propaganda" there, only the cold edge of bronze. Imagine being dragged into a clearing because your neighbor wants your grain. There is no trial, no "worthy victim" narrative, just a blunt instrument caving in your skull while you scream into the dirt.

You would be left to rot in a shallow trench, your body bloating in the sun, eyes picked out by crows before your blood even dries. No one will record your "rebellion." No one will remember your name. You aren’t a "witch" fighting the system; you are meat. You are a biological accident in a world that views your agony as background noise.

The "raw cruelty" you romanticize from behind a screen would break you in seconds. You don't live in a cycle of sacrifice—you live in a padded cell of civilization so secure that you’ve forgotten what real terror feels like.

Quite famously the issue with sources from those time periods is that they're so heavily propagandized that we have trouble actually figuring out the truth of what happened. The priest kings of Ur for example have many writings describing their right to rule by claiming to be related to deities. This was around 2000BC. Ur itself was founded ~3800BC, it wouldn't be far fetched to believe that propaganda by word of mouth started long before we find cuneiform writings about it.

The bronze age is interestingly a relatively civil time period with heavy focus on international trade. Wars happened, but on a scale of human suffering very few things in history match up to what our "enlightened" nations did in the 20th century. Fascinatingly, these horrific conflicts all sourced in part from propaganda used to control and influence nations.


I think you should do some research and read less fantasy novels.

[Nictos]

While both of you are completely correct and I appreciate the nerd hats - I think the actual problem is his nihilism more than anything. Some people are willing to say anything to protect their point of views rather than absorb others.

Basically what I’m saying is facts don’t work in matters of the heart.

[strpk0]

what in the name of fuck are any of you nerds talking about

[strpk0]

by the way, jorb and loftar, you forgot to delete a massive intervention claim on the -1 mine level in balls bay (w16), up to you to decide if you'd prefer we use this as an unraidable vault

this is a formal bug report and i will patiently await a perma ban as a punishment for my transgression