Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:28 pm

Artemiswhb wrote:I suppose, good thing you're not anal about performance like me :)


I'd have to dig the book back out again to get an exact quote, but to generally summarize... 90% of the execution is spent in 10% of the code. Optimize what is being processed, and leave the rest of it alone. (Code Complete, Steve McConnell, (c) 1993, 2nd ed 2004)
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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby sMartins » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:19 pm

jordancoles wrote:Amber client standing in the middle of my plot
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Amber client with animations turned off (trash stockpiles, animal idle, beehives, dreamcatchers and fires) and lowest graphical settings
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Default client
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This is standing still though, moving in any direction drops these numbers by 15-20 fps


Of course I said at the same quality level. I know that customs have more graphics options. Btw this doesn't mean that customs ar better optimazed, and of course is not.
If that little Nobody has Fps issues is not cause the game is not optimazed....but cause his pc is trash.....now of course the game could be better optimized, but it's not his case....and there is a limit.....you cannot optimaze Crysis so well that you can run it on a Pentium I, 133 Mhz...come on.
What he can do is asking kindly Loftar if he could add a even lower graphic preset, like lower rendering distance, possibilieties to turn off ambient decorations, etc....
And it's why shitty customs runs faster than the default. ( I'm sure the guys who made customs are very good in what they do, but i cannot believe they are better than the dev who made the whole game with optimazation)
The Default Client is more stable and runs better in general at the same quality.
So if Loftar is reading this, it's not a bad idea: develop a super low graphic preset for the client, so it will be the faster.....maybe some people will stop to use shitty customs.
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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby sMartins » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:38 pm

strpk0 wrote:Coding is not magic, and custom clients don't magically make "unnecessary requests that lag the server (the fuck?)"...


I'm not a coder...so I don't know how it works, but I remember a post where Loftar was giving a tip to customs clients maker on how to fix a thing that would prevent their clients to make unnecessary calls to the server. Pretty sure customs are plenty of this things, not sure if they can cause worse server perfomances when used by many people....I hope not tbh.
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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby Ag_Revol » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:39 pm

sMartins wrote:
strpk0 wrote:Coding is not magic, and custom clients don't magically make "unnecessary requests that lag the server (the fuck?)"...


I'm not a coder...so I don't know how it works, but I remember a post where Loftar was giving a tip to customs clients maker on how to fix a thing that would prevent their clients to make unnecessary calls to the server. Pretty sure customs are plenty of this things, not sure if they can cause worse server perfomances when used by many people....I hope not tbh.

So basically you say "I don't know how it works but I'm sure it's bad". Pls stop, you're so dumb I even feel ashemed for you
sMartins wrote:If that little Nobody has Fps issues is not cause the game is not optimazed....but cause his pc is trash.....now of course the game could be better optimized, but it's not his case....and there is a limit.....you cannot optimaze Crysis so well that you can run it on a Pentium I, 133 Mhz...come on.

If majority of big factions players is nobody then your logic is ok. Too sad it is retarded. If you're playing casual in small village/hermit pali then you don't know what real lag is. If you're the one from big guys then your village will always be fucking lag carnaval and every big fight will turn into clusterfuck because of 50 players running in circles.
P.S. It's middle of my village
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P.S.S. Usually I have like 40 fps outside even if I'm using several clients
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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby Ag_Revol » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:50 pm

Rly, wtf?
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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:01 pm

sMartins wrote:If that little Nobody has Fps issues is not cause the game is not optimazed....but cause his pc is trash....

My laptop is pretty good and probably more expensive than your whole family, also no other game I've played drops below 60 FPS on my computer including dota 2, skyrim, all assassin's creeds, etc. The game is not optimized at all

sMartins wrote:i cannot believe they are better than the dev who made the whole game with optimazation (...) The Default Client is more stable and runs better in general at the same quality.


What? Despite the pictures from me, coles and maybe someone else as well that prove the default client runs worse, you're still advocating its usage?

But why?

The default client is just worse than custom clients, why are you still shilling it so hard?
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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby strpk0 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:48 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
sMartins wrote:If that little Nobody has Fps issues is not cause the game is not optimazed....but cause his pc is trash....

My laptop is pretty good and probably more expensive than your whole family, also no other game I've played drops below 60 FPS on my computer including dota 2, skyrim, all assassin's creeds, etc. The game is not optimized at all

sMartins wrote:i cannot believe they are better than the dev who made the whole game with optimazation (...) The Default Client is more stable and runs better in general at the same quality.


What? Despite the pictures from me, coles and maybe someone else as well that prove the default client runs worse, you're still advocating its usage?

But why?

The default client is just worse than custom clients, why are you still shilling it so hard?




I'm not one for personally attacking people, but I found this by chance while watching a haven video just now.
@sMartins
Seriously dude, chill the fuck out. Your opinion is faulty at best and completely unbased and retarded at worst.
I can't possibly supress your opinion that somehow magically "default is better" even though you have admitted to not knowing how programming even works. Honestly, if that's what you believe, then be a happy person and use default all you want. Personally glad you like it.
But please, PLEASE stop spreading your autistic bullshit everywhere, because at some point someone less tech-savvy might believe what you're saying is true. You do know misinforming people about something because you personally don't like it is a gigantic dick move, right?
Use your default client, nobody really cares (or should), but stop trying to convince newer people about stupid shit that makes no sense whatsoever.
Lots of people enjoy the experience of custom clients, and I don't see them blaming default clients for "lagging the server".
Why even bring politics into what client you're using, who the fuck even cares besides you?

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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:51 pm

w-what?

I don't even use default client kek

Oh nvm I didn't see the @smartins

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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby strpk0 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:52 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:w-what?

I don't even use default client kek

Oh nvm I didn't see the @smartins

I actually added it in just now, sorry XD
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Re: Game Development: Another Touch of Fix

Postby Potjeh » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:38 pm

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