Game Development: World 16, with Steam

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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby widelec_szatana » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:47 pm

Hordian wrote:I'd play for a month or two and then get one shot by a player that had a very strong character that I couldn't possibly compete with.


Its funny how those random people think they could be competitive and nod get shitted on, if only they started playing at the same time xD
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby Mepp » Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:19 pm

widelec_szatana wrote:
Hordian wrote:I'd play for a month or two and then get one shot by a player that had a very strong character that I couldn't possibly compete with.


Its funny how those random people think they could be competitive and nod get shitted on, if only they started playing at the same time xD
You cant compete regardless of when you start.


There are many ways to make it more fair but it seems like the devs have no interest in fixing anything. Why even release it on Steam? New players are just going quit because the devs have a really dumb take on PvP and bot prevention. Forum goers take pride in making less experienced players quit and then complain why the server is dead.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby Dawidio123 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:24 pm

Mepp wrote:
widelec_szatana wrote:
Hordian wrote:I'd play for a month or two and then get one shot by a player that had a very strong character that I couldn't possibly compete with.


Its funny how those random people think they could be competitive and nod get shitted on, if only they started playing at the same time xD
You cant compete regardless of when you start.


There are many ways to make it more fair but it seems like the devs have no interest in fixing anything. Why even release it on Steam? New players are just going quit because the devs have a really dumb take on PvP and bot prevention. Forum goers take pride in making less experienced players quit and then complain why the server is dead.

Wdym fair? It is fair. Everyone can make a client and all the bots, everyone can grind stats like mad (even without the bots) and group up to make it easier. What you guys are asking for is for everything to be equalized regardless of skill/effort/amount of time/group size/coordination/etc put into the game. Why should one who logs into the world 5 month late be able to compete with someone who was grinding for 5 months?
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby Mepp » Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:10 pm

What's allowed in H&H would get you insta-banned in every other online game. It only sounds fair to you because you have spent over a decade in this echo-chamber of a forum. Put a disclaimer on the Steam page that the use of 3rd party bot software is allowed. Everyone seems to be very proud of it after all. Tell new players what they are really getting into.

The Steam release is going to be one hell of a reality-check if they don't change.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby jorb » Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:40 pm

Robertzon wrote:Are you going to change it to early access game or not sure yet?


Says in the post. Yes, we want to do that, but the page is currently in review or somesuch so we can't RN.
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby jorb » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:39 am

Uploaded an updated trailer version with release info for W16 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ElSeFqLUI

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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby HasseKebab » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:42 am

any plans on uploading the livestream on youtube like you've done with previous livestreams?
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby caz » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:48 am

HasseKebab wrote:any plans on uploading the livestream on youtube like you've done with previous livestreams?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUDRVYoDUO0
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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby jorb » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:50 am

HasseKebab wrote:any plans on uploading the livestream on youtube like you've done with previous livestreams?


Yes, I did, but left it unlisted to not confuse anyone with outdated info. See here: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=76254&start=70#p940869

Link already posted, but is also here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUDRVYoDUO0

Still processing, however.

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Re: Game Development: World 16, with Steam

Postby DonVelD » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:52 am

Thank you for trying to improve the game, Jorb.
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