Prelude: World 16

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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby Nocturnal-Rainbows » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:40 pm

banok wrote:Also random but I the only one who would like to see hussar wings removed? Do people look at this and think "yeah cool"? Sorry jorb but its just really dumb and ugly. Maybe we can get a client option to toggle.


Pic unrelated to your question but this simple comment on that video made me lol.
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Just goes to show what many people are thinking when they see these clusterfuck mass group pvp videos.
I do think Hussar Wings are too good though. I want to use other things but alas, it's Hussar Wings or bust unfortunately ever since they were added.
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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby h3r0 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:55 pm

I will be extremely surprised if the server even holds. They had no real plan for launch apparently, and they really should know better. I don't know what they were thinking. A day before launch isn't the time to be talking about server capacity and making backup plans. The server has never handled launch well. How is it going to handle so many players, when the amount of wish listed players alone exceeds the maximum estimated capacity of the server? Epic fail. I'm just going to order takeout instead of a subscription. If/when it is clear the game will actually be playable, I will start playing. It really seems like they just gave up on the game and are cashing out. They need to delay the launch and explain they jumped the gun. Only way to salvage this. If I'm wrong, good thing I'm broke, cause I'd put $100 on this being a disaster.
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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby xyzzy57 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:57 pm

I've been informed that a bunch of pictures indicating various changes to haven in world 16 have been posted to Facebook. There's no corresponding announcement here. Are these facebook posts for real, or is this Facebook doing what it does best - spreading fake news?
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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby Halbertz » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:59 pm

xyzzy57 wrote:I've been informed that a bunch of pictures indicating various changes to haven in world 16 have been posted to Facebook. There's no corresponding announcement here. Are these facebook posts for real, or is this Facebook doing what it does best - spreading fake news?

Bruh, business as usual
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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby Hingle_McCringle » Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:01 am

Prepare yourself for lime disease.......
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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby caz » Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:28 am

can we have the real patch notes
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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby certace » Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:39 am

They will probably call me sprucecap, I have actually been playing for several years, I have rarely commented since I really speak Spanish, not English or Russian, I will only say one thing: opening up to steam and having 5000 people with the game on their wishlist is not the same as the current player base, I do not have much experience in combat, I have only fought with friends in unarmed practice fights and the closest thing to real pvp that I survived was some idiots chasing me while they told me things about how I was a stupid monkey and making an apology for the nazis, yes, there are players who dedicate themselves to killing newbies in groups while they talk about nazi things, I do not think that the vast majority of steam players would like to see how what they did in one or two weeks groping around without knowing exactly how to advance is destroyed by some idiots who tell them that they are stupid monkeys and long live hitler, I know that it is easier said than done, but they should stop listening To those whiny kids complaining that the bow is OP, or that SoS is OP, no, just because something can counter you doesn't make it OP, having to learn to fight against different styles or decks doesn't make it OP and not always being the bully that kills the newbies doesn't make the other game modes OP, they should restructure the combat system and include bows again, as someone said above, that in a battle of 60 people there are 3 archers is not synonymous with bows being OP, it's actually the opposite, they should (as someone previously suggested) look for combat to be a rock paper scissors, where the bow would be used to attack people with little armor but who are fast, people with heavy armor and shields counter bows but attack slower and people with swords/daggers/axes have more attack and movement speed but less resistance, and unarmed fighters have even more attack and movement speed but much more damage. reduced, instead of the current system where there is only a small group of whiny players who only know how to play a style that they have been mastering for years and who enjoy killing new players, congratulations to the developers for the launch on steam, I have been playing this game for several years, and the times I abandoned it halfway through the world it was precisely because of how boring it is to go to a swamp and have 15-year-old ''Nazi'' idiots show up to hunt solo players like me, and I think that will happen to a lot of steam players who see that they cannot defend themselves in any other way than the one these idiots have mastered for years.

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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby Halbertz » Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:55 am

certace wrote:They will probably call me sprucecap, I have actually been playing for several years, I have rarely commented since I really speak Spanish, not English or Russian, I will only say one thing: opening up to steam and having 5000 people with the game on their wishlist is not the same as the current player base, I do not have much experience in combat, I have only fought with friends in unarmed practice fights and the closest thing to real pvp that I survived was some idiots chasing me while they told me things about how I was a stupid monkey and making an apology for the nazis, yes, there are players who dedicate themselves to killing newbies in groups while they talk about nazi things, I do not think that the vast majority of steam players would like to see how what they did in one or two weeks groping around without knowing exactly how to advance is destroyed by some idiots who tell them that they are stupid monkeys and long live hitler, I know that it is easier said than done, but they should stop listening To those whiny kids complaining that the bow is OP, or that SoS is OP, no, just because something can counter you doesn't make it OP, having to learn to fight against different styles or decks doesn't make it OP and not always being the bully that kills the newbies doesn't make the other game modes OP, they should restructure the combat system and include bows again, as someone said above, that in a battle of 60 people there are 3 archers is not synonymous with bows being OP, it's actually the opposite, they should (as someone previously suggested) look for combat to be a rock paper scissors, where the bow would be used to attack people with little armor but who are fast, people with heavy armor and shields counter bows but attack slower and people with swords/daggers/axes have more attack and movement speed but less resistance, and unarmed fighters have even more attack and movement speed but much more damage. reduced, instead of the current system where there is only a small group of whiny players who only know how to play a style that they have been mastering for years and who enjoy killing new players, congratulations to the developers for the launch on steam, I have been playing this game for several years, and the times I abandoned it halfway through the world it was precisely because of how boring it is to go to a swamp and have 15-year-old ''Nazi'' idiots show up to hunt solo players like me, and I think that will happen to a lot of steam players who see that they cannot defend themselves in any other way than the one these idiots have mastered for years.

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Trust me brother, if you right now join some faction and actively participate in pvp, that potential future you will facepalm himself to death rereading this.
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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby certace » Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:09 am

Halbertz wrote:Trust me brother, if you right now join some faction and actively participate in pvp, that potential future you will facepalm himself to death rereading this.



Even if tomorrow I would become the best at playing pvp with the current system, it is really not my style of play, you should understand that there are players like me, who whether in baldurs gate, in skyrim, in a tabletop role-playing game, or in any game that allows me, I like to play with bows, so there are people who like to play someone with heavy armor, shield and a mallet and others would like to play with leather armor and a sword, so no, even if Tomorrow I would become the master of the current combat system, I would still prefer a redesign of the combat to allow for more different play styles, not everything should revolve around what suits me or benefits me, those who cry about everything should keep that in mind whatever is not his combat style.
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Re: Prelude: World 16

Postby Halbertz » Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:14 am

certace wrote:
Halbertz wrote:Trust me brother, if you right now join some faction and actively participate in pvp, that potential future you will facepalm himself to death rereading this.



Even if tomorrow I would become the best at playing pvp with the current system, it is really not my style of play, you should understand that there are players like me, who whether in baldurs gate, in skyrim, in a tabletop role-playing game, or in any game that allows me, I like to play with bows, so there are people who like to play someone with heavy armor, shield and a mallet and others would like to play with leather armor and a sword, so no, even if Tomorrow I would become the master of the current combat system, I would still prefer a redesign of the combat to allow for more different play styles, not everything should revolve around what suits me or benefits me, those who cry about everything should keep that in mind whatever is not his combat style.

The thing is me (and like 99% of other players) will be more than happy to have some new stuff added in regards of current combat system. But stuff you mentioned in your message isn't really fitting how the foundation of the game is working. For example mentioned above variable movement speed. If today Loftar will make this true you not gonna believe me - everyone will just run around naked, as in current system you can't really tank hits from multiple people - you will die in seconds no matter how much armor do you have. Same with SoS. It wasn't really "counter". The move incentivize very passive and low skill dependent gameplay. You also probably (i wasn't there to witness) wrong about so called nazis. Guys in their thirties, with different ethnicity and color of skin using mean words to provoke you to feel bad aren't actual nazis.
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