Divine Intervention: Herald et Consortes vs. Dev Team

[PauloGreco]

Again, the small minority of forum dwellers that will abuse everything and prey on everyone have managed to destroy the game for everyone.
Although increasing the quality of the water sounds like a good idea at first, i really do agree that it would further destabilise and create more chaos and unrest that it would be beneficial.
I feel like most people enjoy the "slow" progress side of this game. You work hard for a steady progress, achieved by yourself or your village through team work and perseverance or hard work going alone as a hermit which makes every little bit of progress so rewarding. If it's just handed to you, it doesn't feel right and ruins the whole concept of a new world. We are 3 months in and this feels like a close to wipe world with no true meaning left anymore.
That's why this game becomes so dead after a very short while after the reset. Forum dwellers sprint like crazy, using bug abuses, bots and anything they can lay their hands on to get the edge over everyone and prey on everyone from month 1, so that they manage to make miserable everyone and pretty much kill the game in 3 months so they alone then start crying how the game is dead and post "wipe when?" all the time.

I don't know what the fix is to this, since it's not only about game mechanics, but the fact that a lot of people are kinda shit, especially the ones that tend to spend most time online. They will just try to shit on everything.
But i've first came across the game more than 10 years ago and it feels like not much has changed, even though the game is so different than then, the same problems persist and the game can't hold a much higher playerbase for the same reasons it couldn't more than 10 years ago.
And for me it's sad really, for i always saw the potential in this and that's why i always come back to it, hoping things may be a bit different next time.

[Fostik]

• The base water quality of the world in general will be increased by about 250 quality points, pending server restart. Note that old wells will be unaffected by this change.

I like that resolution, some random resource being off numbers give a world some uniqueness, and for the players who just leaving game because it's boring to do same stuff each world it could bring some new game experience.

I wish something like this could be done every world with any random resource on 5-6th month of the world.

[Dawidio123]

Okay so, I don't understand how hermits are complaining about water quality. You were using public well anyways and it will be up soontm so you won't be behind, AND if you weren't using the public well (ironman much?) you are now relatively less behind others than you were before (% wise, do the maths). I do agree that salt water buff was unnecessary and will make everyone redo all the industry but that's a good and a bad thing at the same time, at least will shake it up a little, and it doesn't affect hermits AT ALL since they weren't competing to begin with. Ngl, i would love a world reset since i don't consider the game to be worth playing after 3 months but that's completely unrelated to water ql.

On the other hand I do think that bug abusers that not only used it but purposefully distributed it to break the world deserve a ban, and I think that bans of people that abused the bug THIS WORLD shouldn't be appealable and should remain permanently enforced as an example to all the others who might bug abuse, if you're banned you are staying banned, there's no more final warnings. If someone knows they'll get unbanned by next world they won't be afraid of abusing a bug when they're close to quitting anyways.
But to be fair, people who abused it like 3-4 years ago should be considered a bit differently, perhaps a certain statue of limitations, or at least a bit of leniency since it was so long ago.

[Vraatjuh]

Okay so, I don't understand how hermits are complaining about water quality. You were using public well anyways and it will be up soontm so you won't be behind, AND if you weren't using the public well (ironman much?) you are now relatively less behind others than you were before (% wise, do the maths). I do agree that salt water buff was unnecessary and will make everyone redo all the industry but that's a good and a bad thing at the same time, at least will shake it up a little, and it doesn't affect hermits AT ALL since they weren't competing to begin with. Ngl, i would love a world reset since i don't consider the game to be worth playing after 3 months but that's completely unrelated to water ql.

Because the increase of water was gradual in the world so far. It wasn't Q103 (WB well) from day one but went from Q40 self found to Q50 self found Q70 well, Q80 well to Q103 (or whatever) over a timespan of a few months. Now it jumps from Q103 to Q300 in one day.

Also, it's usually not the hermits crying for a world reset after 3 months, but the big parties because they reached 'end game' and the game gets boring.

[Hesufo]

But to be fair, people who abused it like 3-4 years ago should be considered a bit differently, perhaps a certain statue of limitations, or at least a bit of leniency since it was so long ago.

On the contrary I think they should be treated harsher because they knew/abused the bug from the longest time, allowing multiple worlds to be ruined by the bug without our knowledge. I wouldn't let someone like that in my game ever again.

[Dawidio123]

But to be fair, people who abused it like 3-4 years ago should be considered a bit differently, perhaps a certain statue of limitations, or at least a bit of leniency since it was so long ago.

On the contrary I think they should be treated harsher because they knew/abused the bug from the longest time, allowing multiple worlds to be ruined by the bug without our knowledge. I wouldn't let someone like that in my game ever again.

Afaik those bugs were reported back then and devs just didn't care (which tbf, would make me want to use them too if i was the one reporting it, just for the sake of it), and i actually believe that based on what i saw recently. Ie. LP bug that was reported almost a year in advance and didn't get fixed until someone else actually made it public by posting about it on the forums. I truly believe that if trollex and co. didn't purposefully made it obvious they are bug abusing (and admitted to it on the discord) and just stayed quiet while having a superior industry to everyone else, the devs wouldn't have acted.

[Hesufo]

Afaik those bugs were reported back then and devs just didn't care (.

Well just as the devs have admitted they're not omniscient, neither are you. And after all that has transpired and the arguments I've seen, I choose to believe the devs on this one. If it actually was reported, then show the receipts

[MightySheep]

devs RUINED this world with this update, hunting for water quality was my favorite thing to do in this game, every day I come home from work I think gee I cant wait to hunt for water quality today, its so fun, tryhard player wouldnt understand the mindset of us little people

ofcourse I use bay well to get highest quality water on server but I dont let that get in the way of my fun hunting for water nodes

now that water quality is increased Im going to have to remake all my tanning fluid, this is an absolute nightmare, it has ruined all the progression Ive made with my tanning fluid industry up till this point, I dont even feel like keep playing after this

[dafels]

Thank god they didn't reset the world because of this, it would have made the cheater scum happy. I would go as far as banning them from every world now if I would get a hint that they are playing. You can't just get away with shit like this.

[strpk0]

im generally personally displeased with how the devs handled this situation, but reading these crybaby posts i'm now glad they did this (re: increasing the global water quality)

y'all are dumb as hell