Prelude: World 16.2

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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby beansahol » Sun Aug 09, 2026 7:29 pm

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animary wrote:"Haven is built around consequence."

Haven is built around no consequences. Murder everyone in sight, destroy every base you encounter, ruin everyone else' game simply because you are more powerful than they are ...there are no consequences.


No consequences? That's simply not true. Behold. Every world I've played, we've tracked, and killed outlaws. ( Moment of silence for catapult's nerfed ability to mete out Ainran justice in the hearth-lands. :cry: ) Your biggest bogeymen, the most skillful fighters, and the biggest stat grinders, have all suffered the consequence of their actions and been killed. Perhaps you have that perspective for not being on the other side.

You have the ability to oppose those you see are your oppressors, through playing the game, without needing to come to the forums and petition for deus ex machina intervention.


Why do you get chatgpt to write your haven and hearth forum posts? Genuinely asking out of curiosity, because I think it's insane.

Edit: I was kinda curious so I checked with an AI detector, your previous post was entirely AI written, but this one was written by you and just formatted with AI. So that's better, I guess?
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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby Mr_Bober » Sun Aug 09, 2026 9:57 pm

_Scipio wrote:
animary wrote:"Haven is built around consequence."

Haven is built around no consequences. Murder everyone in sight, destroy every base you encounter, ruin everyone else' game simply because you are more powerful than they are ...there are no consequences.


No consequences? That's simply not true. Behold. Every world I've played, we've tracked, and killed outlaws. ( Moment of silence for catapult's nerfed ability to mete out Ainran justice in the hearth-lands. :cry: ) Your biggest bogeymen, the most skillful fighters, and the biggest stat grinders, have all suffered the consequence of their actions and been killed. Perhaps you have that perspective for not being on the other side.

You have the ability to oppose those you see are your oppressors, through playing the game, without needing to come to the forums and petition for deus ex machina intervention.


Proof of consequence: a video in which you kill a bunch of sprucecaps :lol: :lol:
As far as we know those were little thieves that stole from some boat or claim without a palisade. They don't really look like murderers.
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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby _Scipio » Sun Aug 09, 2026 11:37 pm

In the words of Silky Johnston, "I hate you. I don't even know you, and I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else, but you."
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retard beanalcholic wrote:chat gpt ai crying


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This discourse is silly. Ask ChatGPT what confirmation bias is, and how it applies to your suspicions about AI written text. :shock:

Mr_Bober wrote:Proof of consequence: a video in which you kill a bunch of sprucecaps :lol: :lol:
As far as we know those were little thieves that stole from some boat or claim without a palisade. They don't really look like murderers.


I typed that out in-between Tarkov raids, so maybe that didn't really explain my point. Some of my earliest experiences in Haven PVP was the Ainran guys picking up scents are tracking down people. The time stamp in the video shows the name of the "Outlaw Tracked." Many of the characters you see die on their hearth fire are outlawed. At this point I'm pretty sure you're baiting me into wasting my time; but here's an example I can personally provide pictures for you from this 16.1 world:

There was the guy Janusz Alfa; a hermit turned feral. He started having fun and murdering etc. leaving scents everywhere.
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I tracked him down.
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The consequences of his actions eventually led him to me, and later to his death. A murderer facing the consequences in recent memory.

...and there's nothing wrong with that, in fact I think we need more people to participate. Haven was a more popular game where the consequences were more dire for everyone, not just the thieves, vandals, and murderers. Having a similar sized/skilled village to feud with is so much fun, if you aren't using the black skills you're missing out on a core experience of Haven.

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Typical mistake - elaborate to hermit that he is wrong instead of "shut up retard"...


Sage advice. I should adhere. :cry:
mizdirector89 wrote: No, their version of 'interrogating' was just saying 'speak up, you better talk' over and over while they killed our characters.

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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby beansahol » Mon Aug 10, 2026 12:34 am

_Scipio wrote:In the words of Silky Johnston, "I hate you. I don't even know you, and I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else, but you."


Funny how mad you are.

If I wasn't right you wouldn't have deleted/edited the comment I accused of being AI, back on p41 of this thread.

Going to your old comments and deleting them so you look less retarded is kinda cringe tbh. Channel your anger into learning how to write unsupported, instead of at me.
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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby DDDsDD999 » Mon Aug 10, 2026 12:39 am

beansahol wrote:
DDDsDD999 wrote:
beansahol wrote:>"Without pvp you'll get griefed by hundreds of bot alts that claim every resource and block your path!"

>No, that's not possible or feasible, it's never happened in the history of the game and it never will. PvP is good but that's not why it's needed, think critically.

>"y-you're stupid!"

Honestly some of you are just retarded freaks. Use your words, think things through.

I guess If you are only ever on the losing end of PVP, the notion of conflict can seem self-defeating. But there exist some human beings with a developed motor cortex, allowing them usage of their hands. This enables them to move a mouse and press keys on a keyboard, while not accidentally turning their monitor off. And I believe you can do this too!


>PvP is good and should be in the game but this particular point you're making doesn't make sense

"This guy hates pvp and wants it removed!"

I don't understand why you're here if you can't read.

You seem to have confused my post as an argument. I'm not arguing with you, you're a braindead retarded troglodyte, and a faceless, no-name, no-pfp NPC at that. I'm insulting you because it's fun.
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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby _Scipio » Mon Aug 10, 2026 12:42 am

beansahol wrote:
_Scipio wrote:In the words of Silky Johnston, "I hate you. I don't even know you, and I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else, but you."


Funny how mad you are.

If I wasn't right you wouldn't have deleted/edited the comment I accused of being AI, back on p41 of this thread.

Going to your old comments and deleting them so you look less retarded is kinda cringe tbh. Channel your anger into learning how to write unsupported, instead of at me.



I didn't delete or edit anything. You're wrong— again.

In the wise words of ZamAlex, "shut up retard."
mizdirector89 wrote: No, their version of 'interrogating' was just saying 'speak up, you better talk' over and over while they killed our characters.

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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby Regulus2424 » Mon Aug 10, 2026 12:44 am

holy shit Janusz truly was the funniest hermit of 16.1
W6 - giga noob hermit
W7 - giga noob hermit, part 2
W12 - hermit
W13 - sprucecap extraordinaire from Magnanimous Magistrates
W14 - PotFriendJr from Doom Fortress
W15 - He Who Was from Gnomes Gone Gangsta
W16 - Marazhai from Wildfox Bread/Hogwarts
W16.1 - Knave from Pimp My Wheelchair
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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby beansahol » Mon Aug 10, 2026 12:56 am

DDDsDD999 wrote:You seem to have confused my post as an argument. I'm not arguing with you, you're a braindead retarded troglodyte, and a faceless, no-name, no-pfp NPC at that. I'm insulting you because it's fun.


>get a load at this guy, he hasn't set his haven and hearth forum pfp!

you don't sound like you're having fun. you sound really mad and confused.
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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby beansahol » Mon Aug 10, 2026 1:01 am

_Scipio wrote:
beansahol wrote:
_Scipio wrote:In the words of Silky Johnston, "I hate you. I don't even know you, and I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else, but you."


Funny how mad you are.

If I wasn't right you wouldn't have deleted/edited the comment I accused of being AI, back on p41 of this thread.

Going to your old comments and deleting them so you look less retarded is kinda cringe tbh. Channel your anger into learning how to write unsupported, instead of at me.



I didn't delete or edit anything. You're wrong— again.

In the wise words of ZamAlex, "shut up retard."


I dunno why you're pretending. You usually write like a low IQ retard, then you suddenly post a little essay on consequences with a bunch of points bolded and italicised. It's not rocket science, just admit it and move on.
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Re: Prelude: World 16.2

Postby DDDsDD999 » Mon Aug 10, 2026 1:46 am

beansahol wrote:
DDDsDD999 wrote:You seem to have confused my post as an argument. I'm not arguing with you, you're a braindead retarded troglodyte, and a faceless, no-name, no-pfp NPC at that. I'm insulting you because it's fun.


>get a load at this guy, he hasn't set his haven and hearth forum pfp!

you don't sound like you're having fun. you sound really mad and confused.

Jarvis, count the number of times this guy has posted in this thread.
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