Game Development: Listed Wound

[SnuggleSnail]

The hat change seems good to me purely for advertising reasons. Haven has a lot less RMT than most MMOs, but it 'feels' more prevalent because it's talked about publicly. That said, these changes aren't going to lead to much less RMT. People will just be more direct about it. It also seems insanely easy to scam with this system? Kinda like how people used to sell hats on barterstands, only for them to disappear as soon as you'd buy the. It's complicated enough that non native english speakers and casuals are gonna get fucked sometimes.

The catapult thing is very silly, though. I suspect some people portrayed themselves as experts in Jorbtar's DM and gave very bad advice. I don't even rly wanna publicly talk about it because I still think I'll win sieges vs. 99% of people just by abusing them not knowing mechanics, but this change prolly does very little to stop shitters getting sieged other than a lot of added tedium, but makes sieging anybody who knows even slightly what they're doing impossible unless you wait for them to go offline.

[Sephiron]

The hat change seems good to me purely for advertising reasons. Haven has a lot less RMT than most MMOs, but it 'feels' more prevalent because it's talked about publicly. That said, these changes aren't going to lead to much less RMT. People will just be more direct about it. It also seems insanely easy to scam with this system? Kinda like how people used to sell hats on barterstands, only for them to disappear as soon as you'd buy the. It's complicated enough that non native english speakers and casuals are gonna get fucked sometimes.

The catapult thing is very silly, though. I suspect some people portrayed themselves as experts in Jorbtar's DM and gave very bad advice. I don't even rly wanna publicly talk about it because I still think I'll win sieges vs. 99% of people just by abusing them not knowing mechanics, but this change prolly does very little to stop shitters getting sieged other than a lot of added tedium, but makes sieging anybody who knows even slightly what they're doing impossible unless you wait for them to go offline.

I assume hats can't be sold in barter stands unless they're prepared in advance for trading. If that's not the case, it probably should be the case considering that you can buy a hat and have it vanish from your inventory lol
What's your biggest struggle against people who actively know how to defend from a siege? Are archery towers really that effective? Or is the duration/wait time for drying too long? I'd say, at least they got rid of siege boosts- As much as I loved using that mechanic I imagine that didn't do anything good for siege

[Vert]

What if people will make 2 corner and then make a sign of gate and after that will destroy corner and build gate, so after repeating you can have a wall of Vgate, and they wouldnt splash.
Since there is a way to limit splash with Vgate, maybe wall splashing should be 1 tile?

[bob_smith]

Good patch. I like both the hat and siege changes. Previously, battering rams seemed pointless in most cases. Now, they have a use and there's an argument for defenders to build catapults to target specific rams and attackers to build counter-catapults.

The hat change seems good to me purely for advertising reasons. Haven has a lot less RMT than most MMOs, but it 'feels' more prevalent because it's talked about publicly. That said, these changes aren't going to lead to much less RMT. People will just be more direct about it. It also seems insanely easy to scam with this system? Kinda like how people used to sell hats on barterstands, only for them to disappear as soon as you'd buy the. It's complicated enough that non native english speakers and casuals are gonna get fucked sometimes.

I don't think the hat change was related to RMT. From Jorb's description, it's about preventing accidents and avoiding hat-wearing players being targeted.

The catapult thing is very silly, though. I suspect some people portrayed themselves as experts in Jorbtar's DM and gave very bad advice. I don't even rly wanna publicly talk about it because I still think I'll win sieges vs. 99% of people just by abusing them not knowing mechanics, but this change prolly does very little to stop shitters getting sieged other than a lot of added tedium, but makes sieging anybody who knows even slightly what they're doing impossible unless you wait for them to go offline.

Hopefully once you're done winning your sieges, we can have an open discussion. I don't think it helps create a better game with everyone wanting to discuss in DMs instead of openly.

[Sephiron]

What if people will make 2 corner and then make a sign of gate and after that will destroy corner and build gate, so after repeating you can have a wall of Vgate, and they wouldnt splash.
Since there is a way to limit splash with Vgate, maybe wall splashing should be 1 tile?

How are you going to make a wall of vgates next to each other without the posts in between them? Even if you smash the posts before finishing the gate construction, you can't build another gate immediately next to it. Even if you can, gates are still affected by cascade damage.

[joojoo1975]

I still think I'll win sieges vs. 99% of people just by abusing them not knowing mechanics,

You will win due to the average player's ignorance of the mechanics in question or you will win because of the convoluted mechanics themselves that 99% of the people don't understand as J&L has made, much like the combat system, a total farce in the first place?

[Avu]

I still think I'll win sieges vs. 99% of people just by abusing them not knowing mechanics,

You will win due to the average player's ignorance of the mechanics in question or you will win because of the convoluted mechanics themselves that 99% of the people don't understand as J&L has made, much like the combat system, a total farce in the first place?

Doesn't help that wiki is wrong on such mechanics and the ones that do use them have no interest in making the knowledge public because they don't want a better game they just want to win no matter what.

[DonVelD]

thank mvgulik for nazi moderating the wiki so nobody updates it now

[SnuggleSnail]

Doesn't help that wiki is wrong on such mechanics and the ones that do use them have no interest in making the knowledge public because they don't want a better game they just want to win no matter what.

shut the fuck up retard




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[Kaios]

jorb/loftar do you guys even read forum pm's anymore. most people i talked to said their msgs to you guys are in the outbox so its like you guys arn't reading it. if you are not reading forum pm's how are we supposed to report things that you dont want well known.

You have to say something rude or insulting first, untamed pride and ego will then compel them to respond. I wish I could say that's a joke but unfortunately it's not.