A Plea for Moderation

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Austinh15 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:10 pm

overtyped wrote:I would like Jorb to realize one thing. Whenever the 20 trolls want something, they'll all suddenly start posting the same thing together, with the goal of giving the impression that it's what everyone wants.

Autstin, the alt, is pretending he is some kind person with a conscious, meanwhile he makes threads publically bullying Misa after concocting this plan together in discord.

And now, he, and the SAME 20 trolls have once more come together to try to get oddity/ardennes modded by crafting a narrative that it's what the people want. I know you have been falling for this same trick over and over, just like I know that cesspool of a discord, is what caused noindy to get unmodded.


Would an alt have an entire village of 12 and two separate servers for said village with a layout of channels for his friends to converse in you belligerent out-of-control conspiracy freak? Jesus Christ dude I'm a REAL PERSON.

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Austinh15 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:14 pm

Sorry, this isn't the place for this conversation. I'll stop responding to him. Don't want to gum up the judicial system with the ramblings belonging to the Moot. (EDIT: I advise we do the same and keep the topic to the moderator pick, whoever you wish to be heir to the Jorb Throne)
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:15 pm

Austinh15 wrote: both sides are carefully crafting narratives in back channels.
This has to be the funniest admission in the world. We aren't, but you just said you are.

Austinh15 wrote:It's easier for you to assume there's a conspiracy going on than to accept that a large portion of the community is upset with your friend's comments and actions.


Nice gaslight. You literally just said you are carefully crafting narratives in back channels, then accused us of assuming there is a conspiracy.

Your "carefully crafted narratives" have been used to push SoS nerfs, No!nek removal, your Misa "complaint," to generally drive out those you don't like from the community, and now to attempt to handpick a mod of your choosing.

You're right that Jorb isn't "old and senile" though. I like to think he had enough faith in humanity that he thought your suggestions and complaints were made in good faith. It seems like he's finally becoming jaded enough with this process that he's starting to see they aren't in good faith.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Apocoreo » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:18 pm

As one of Austinh15's villagers I can confirm he is an emotionless wretch who plays this game only to torment others. This account is merely one of the many alts of Snail and daviodVD. His public "cheat sheet" of alchemical recipes doesn't work because it is merely a front, an excuse for anyone trying to use the alchemy system for fair ingame monetary gain. He also give other players free "healing" potions that convert their wounds to nerve damage. He does this to a suspicious amount to brazillians, which explain his hatred of Misa. He has 7 mouths and 11 tongues and is definitely a servant of moloch
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Austinh15 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:20 pm

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:
Austinh15 wrote: both sides are carefully crafting narratives in back channels.
This has to be the funniest admission in the world. We aren't, but you just said you are.

Austinh15 wrote:It's easier for you to assume there's a conspiracy going on than to accept that a large portion of the community is upset with your friend's comments and actions.


Nice gaslight. You literally just said you are carefully crafting narratives in back channels, then accused us of assuming there is a conspiracy.

Your "carefully crafted narratives" have been used to push SoS nerfs, No!nek removal, your Misa "complaint," to generally drive out those you don't like from the community, and now to attempt to handpick a mod of your choosing.

You're right that Jorb isn't "old and senile" though. I like to think he had enough faith in humanity that he thought your suggestions and complaints were made in good faith. It seems like he's finally becoming jaded enough with this process that he's starting to see they aren't in good faith.



Robben, I'm not on either side. I assume both you and them are whispering in Jorb's ear, and this has been happening for a while. Are you telling me your amazing guess of a steam release a couple of weeks ago was happenstance? Do you wish for me to believe that the 30,000 Robben alts aren't someone who hates you? I know I'm 25 but I have a few years of context under my belt. :)

Also, every time I talk to you its you breaking up what I said for specific points. I get others do that, but bad faith is bad faith. I've yet to twist yours, or any of Bob's words. Every time I speak you try and use me like some kind of gotcha card. It's why I usually don't respond to you. You just always talk to me in bad faith.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby jorb » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:23 pm

Take faction discussions to the appropriate subforum, and stop shitting up the "Plea..." thread. Please and thank you.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby dafels » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:25 pm

overtyped wrote:
dafels wrote:So why do you think Oddity would be a bad candidate except for your imaginated conspiracy theory?

Because he is involved in the public bullying of Misa.

I would like to hear his side, if he cares, I just support him because he's been in the community for a while and haven't played in any groups for a long time. Also don't think he is particullary attached/sympathizing to any groups and I have doubts he has participated in any group conspiracy knowingly. I'm not really informed of what has been going on and I don't really want to know more about it.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Apocoreo » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:30 pm

EDIT: I think this is relevant to moderation and the overall state of the forum

Oh boy here I go being serious again.

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:then accused us of assuming there is a conspiracy.


I'll let Austin speak for himself on all the other shit, but Audiosmurf suggested everyone against Misa was part of a group goign back 10 years ousting people from the community one by one. The implication was that I was included. I quit in w8, came back w11, and the only one of you fuckers I remember is Oddity. Well and Sabani, dunno if I got his name right. I think there was a guy name Arvin or something?

Anyway that said, I don't know if you include Audiosmurf in "us", I don't really know him or what groups he belongs to. At this point any splitting of the community into two camps kind of disgusts me, there's little consistent moral code, moreso two drama camps claiming the other has plans and plots. I think zent- or whatever (I can't be assed to look up all these names) earlier in this thread said something about WB leadership being this cult of personality centred on ego. I don't really believe that exactly, and I get shoved into his camp because I'm team Misa bad.

Anyway this was mostly a rant for myself. While I'm at it, have you ever made a statement on the core issue here? I recall you saying in Discord that Misa was no longer WB readership for a reason with your saying the precise reason, and discord doesn't count, so says Jorb.

P.S. Ya'll should really make callout threads similar to Austin's for people that are genuinely harmful to others. Do me if I'm so bad! :D
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby joojoo1975 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:59 pm

ChildhoodObesity wrote:the people want PILLS


the people shouldn't be allowed to pick.

this is not a popularity contest. Really it's down to what two people think. Picking forums moderators on popularity just seems wrong.
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby overtyped » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:03 pm

Just out of curiosity, what happened to the old mods like potjeh? Did they also get nonindy'd or did they resign? I would like to see a return of those mods if possible. At the very least we know they won't abuse their powers.
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