A Plea for Moderation

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:31 pm

Kaios2 wrote:Just imagine how much better the forum would be if there wasn't all this white noise in between my incredibly high quality posts.


I agree!
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby mulamishne » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:32 pm

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:I agree!

I miss MadGonad :cry:

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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Austinh15 » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:37 pm

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:
Drownin_DaSea wrote:>noneck accuses a specific person (without proof) in a way that’s very clear to that person and everyone who knows noneck banned him


I must admit it's pretty damning that so many of you quickly assumed it was one person who only shares the characteristic of having been banned and is Polish.

I'm not sure though if that's because you know more about the letter, or if it's just because you assumed this person is the likely suspect who would probably be accused of such a thing.


I personally only know of the one polish person who has been curfewed/banned (pretty sure multiple times). My connect the dot book only works when I have a dot to connect to. That being said, sure he could have been talking about someone else that's polish. I really don't know. Context was just leading me to thinking he was speaking of that one person, and by context I am literally referring to the 2 bullet points I made. Maybe this dude wasn't even Polish and we're reading this shit wrong. Because it's literally an off comment with no substance, proof, or direction. Just a claim of death threats. It just seemed pointed with the description he chose to include and how I read it. I'm sure he can speak for himself though. :)
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:42 pm

Austinh15 wrote:
Robben_DuMarsch wrote:
Drownin_DaSea wrote:>noneck accuses a specific person (without proof) in a way that’s very clear to that person and everyone who knows noneck banned him


I must admit it's pretty damning that so many of you quickly assumed it was one person who only shares the characteristic of having been banned and is Polish.

I'm not sure though if that's because you know more about the letter, or if it's just because you assumed this person is the likely suspect who would probably be accused of such a thing.


I personally only know of the one polish person who has been curfewed/banned (pretty sure multiple times). My connect the dot book only works when I have a dot to connect to. That being said, sure he could have been talking about someone else that's polish. I really don't know. Context was just leading me to thinking he was speaking of that one person, and by context I am literally referring to the 2 bullet points I made. Maybe this dude wasn't even Polish and we're reading this shit wrong. Because it's literally an off comment with no substance, proof, or direction. Just a claim of death threats. It just seemed pointed with the description he chose to include and how I read it. I'm sure he can speak for himself though. :)


Now that's much more reasonable.
Could it be that you can now concede I wasn't trying to attack anyone, but instead draw attention to the difficulties of being a moderator these days, and my intent was merely to in good faith suggest an anonymous moderator would address some potential issues?
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Austinh15 » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:55 pm

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:Now that's much more reasonable.
Could it be that you can now concede I wasn't trying to attack anyone, but instead draw attention to the difficulties of being a moderator these days, and my intent was merely to in good faith suggest an anonymous moderator would address some potential issues?


If that's the headline of your comments, then I'll take it. Moderating this hell hole would be tough. And I think your idea isn't bad but I think accountability is still a crucial part of a position of power, no?

I would sooner put multiple biased opposing moderators in a circus and let Jorb be their tired ring master. That sounds like a delightfully disasterous decision that I'm NOT endorsing. I just simply started thinking about checks and balances. Maybe there's a way to enforce neutrality?
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a glimpse of the future

Postby Drownin_DaSea » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:55 pm

Excerpt of Discord Private Message from Robben DuMarsch, 17/10/2024:
“Now that we can agree the Moderation Team should be anonymous, might we also agree that the Cruel Harassment Noindyfikator received was not commensurate with his Illustrious Tenure as a Just and Competent Moderator? Think of the Order he’d bring to the forums if reinstated under a Pseudonym…for his protection from Unfair accusations of “bias,” of course! Wouldn’t that be nice, Jorb?”

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Re: a glimpse of the future

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:57 pm

Drownin_DaSea wrote:Excerpt of Discord Private Message from Robben DuMarsch, 17/10/2024:
“Now that we can agree the Moderation Team should be anonymous, might we also agree that the Cruel Harassment Noindyfikator received was not commensurate with his Illustrious Tenure as a Just and Competent Moderator? Think of the Order he’d bring to the forums if reinstated under a Pseudonym…for his protection from Unfair accusations of “bias,” of course! Wouldn’t that be nice, Jorb?”

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Drownin DaSea was one of my favorites. RIP when Jorb sees you :D
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Re: A Plea for Moderation

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:58 pm

Austinh15 wrote:
Robben_DuMarsch wrote:Now that's much more reasonable.
Could it be that you can now concede I wasn't trying to attack anyone, but instead draw attention to the difficulties of being a moderator these days, and my intent was merely to in good faith suggest an anonymous moderator would address some potential issues?


If that's the headline of your comments, then I'll take it. Moderating this hell hole would be tough. And I think your idea isn't bad but I think accountability is still a crucial part of a position of power, no?

I would sooner put multiple biased opposing moderators in a circus and let Jorb be their tired ring master. That sounds like a delightfully disasterous decision that I'm NOT endorsing. I just simply started thinking about checks and balances. Maybe there's a way to enforce neutrality?


I understand your thinking, and it seems sound. Unfortunately in other contexts we usually operate with the assumption that someone is going to hopefully be unbiased unless they've got some clear conflict of interest.

We've made that bar pretty high by fighting over this, no? Not even poor Pills was found to be unbiased enough lol.
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JORB WAKE UP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Postby Drownin_DaSea » Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:01 pm

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Re: JORB WAKE UP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:04 pm

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