Game Development: Bugskatchewan

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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby tableman » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:37 am

Wheat Before: 180 tiles of wheat = 36.0 flour = 1 LC of Pumpkin Pies = 12x15 field

Wheat After: 180 tiles of wheat = 180.0 flour = 5 LC of Pumpkin Pies = 12x15 field

Pumpkin Flesh: 5LC*4 = 960 Pumpkin pies = 960\4 = 240 Pumpkins = 15*16 field (enough pumpkins to cook multiharvested 12x15 Wheat field into Pumpkin Pies)

IMO thats unbalanced and unrealistic. Making 960 Pumpkin Pies per ~4 days from 12*15 Wheat field.... Its like if i would open own Bakery growing Wheat in my living room.

Sure its easy to win more with this but wheres the fun for true farmers. You guys already simplified farming to shit making able to stack flour and incrasing slots in Ovens, and i liked that but not this update... how farmers is going to feel unique if anyone can make 960 Pumpkin Pies easily growing crops near own house without any management system...

The point was that its hard to do in bulk without good organisation while Pies are in high demand, and now its almost like in any other game with farming... "take this combine with that".

And single Hive cyrcle full of Wheat are now able to support something like 10000 Pumpkin Pies per Pumpkin cycle.....
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:49 am

tableman wrote:Wheat Before: 180 tiles of wheat = 36.0 flour = 1 LC of Pumpkin Pies = 12x15 field

Wheat After: 180 tiles of wheat = 180.0 flour = 5 LC of Pumpkin Pies = 12x15 field

Pumpkin Flesh: 5LC*4 = 960 Pumpkin pies = 960\4 = 240 Pumpkins = 15*16 field

IMO thats unbalanced and unrealistic. Making 960 Pumpkin Pies per ~4 days from 12*15 Wheat field....

Its like if i would open own Bakery growing Wheat in my living room.

The idea before was in necessity of somewhat large space to grow alot of wheat and ability to manage all of the things and with this update it turn out too easy to be interesting.................................. + we have legit harvesting bot now. Theres people that like managing things out there like me and this is becoming just too simple to do.

Sure its easy to win more with this but wheres the fun for true farmers. You guys already simplified farming to shit making able to stack flour and incrasing slots in Ovens, and i liked that but not this update... how farmers is going to feel unique if anyone can make 960 Pumpkin Pies easily growing crops near own house without any management system...

I got lost somewhere. How did you get from 180kg of flour to 960 pies? I thought 1 pie required more than 0.5 kg?
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby tableman » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:51 am

You harvest Wheat ~4 times while Pumpkins grow. (180*4)/0.75=960
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:53 am

tableman wrote:You harvest Wheat ~4 times while Pumpkins grow.

But you said:
Making 960 Pumpkin Pies per ~4 days from 12*15 Wheat field....

this 4 days is growth time of pumpkins or wheat?
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby tableman » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:55 am

Pumpkins grow like 4-6 days. Wheat grow like 1.5 days. By the time Pumpkins will grow you will harvest Wheat 3-4 times.
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:56 am

tableman wrote:Pumpkins grow like 4-6 days. Wheat grow like 1.5 days. By the time Pumpkins will grow you will harvest Wheat 3-4 times.

Weird, my barley takes several days to grow.
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby lordrio » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:08 pm

jorb wrote:[*] All personal claims beyond the first cost 4000LP to finish building. All claim fixes taken together hopefully alleviating this problem.


There is a bug to this, and I'm not sure if its warrant a thread in the bug section.

If a char without 4k LP build and unable to finish the claim (and this is not his first claim), you can get a different char to with 4k LP to finish it. But 4k will not be deducted from either one of those char. Bond will goes to the 2nd char, and ownership will be the 1st char (Which is intended I guess)
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby CaptainMidget » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:14 pm

Procne wrote:
tableman wrote:Pumpkins grow like 4-6 days. Wheat grow like 1.5 days. By the time Pumpkins will grow you will harvest Wheat 3-4 times.

Weird, my barley takes several days to grow.


Mind sharing the biome of which your barley is planted on? Is it possible biomes affect the speed of plant growth?
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:34 pm

plowed field biome. I think it's actual type of biome now instead of an overlay like in Legacy. One field was grassland, and another was forest before. Granted, I haven't measured the time needed but usually it seemed that crop was ready on 3rd day after planting
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Re: Game Development: Bugskatchewan

Postby jorb » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:46 pm

lordrio wrote:
jorb wrote:[*] All personal claims beyond the first cost 4000LP to finish building. All claim fixes taken together hopefully alleviating this problem.


There is a bug to this, and I'm not sure if its warrant a thread in the bug section.

If a char without 4k LP build and unable to finish the claim (and this is not his first claim), you can get a different char to with 4k LP to finish it. But 4k will not be deducted from either one of those char. Bond will goes to the 2nd char, and ownership will be the 1st char (Which is intended I guess)


Thanks. Will look at that.
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