Game Development: Bumble Pyre

[springyb]

Can you replace the tiny annoying shit devil bees that buzz around domesticated beehives with these cute fuzzy bumbling bumble bees?

Can beehives randomly spawn bumblers?

[mvgulik]

What, no Heptagon!
Circle is the other way from hexagon.

[Uriel]

Nice on, thx JLo

[ogey]

Hey these are pretty good.

[Valgar]

It's me or the Bumblebee got the size of an Eagle on the screen ? xD

I think it's fair to say that that's true of all insects. I mean, what did you expect, that they'd be realistic size and take up 1 pixel?

The graphics are mostly optimized for the default camera at the zoom-level that corresponds to Legacy scale:

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Nothing bad, after seeing them on the game
Just asking cause on the patch presentation, they seemed to be "big".

[Zampfeo]

It's definitely more accessible for non-faction towns and could act as a good "keeping pace" for people who can mine for good stone spots without needing to worry about metal quality and bone quality for boneclay. But saying it overshoots faction boneclay is getting a bit ahead of things. 350+ bones are a thing, and their metal quality's well over 200 as well. 99% sure better base kilns/fuel also impacts boneclay more than this one by a longshot.

Kinda like sausages. Average joe is getting a lot of benefits relative to the big boys so it seems OP. But really it's just closing the gap a bit because big boys were already so far ahead.

I agree with your assessment. q100+ flint and quartz is easy to get for me solo. q200+ bones and cave/pit clay not so much. Coade clay gives me something to use in the mean time.

[Phaen]

Nice to have a way to reduce wounds, but 15 minutes? Why so long? Why not 30 seconds or something, like if you're waiting around for a magpie to snatch the item you dropped. 15 minutes is way too long to just stand in the woods waiting

In that case, we could've just as well remove the bees themselves altogether. This at least leaves a reason ever to fight them.

When I try to fight bees I never get to the raiding stage because they just keep respawning over and over and over until I gave up

When is it worth fighting bees? Do hives have a finite number if bees that will spawn?

[Agrik]

Best strat with this timer is still probably to just test raid the hive and leave if bees come out at all. You could find another hive within 15 minutes, anyways

Maybe the number of bees can be tied to coordinates, alike the mechanic of quality nodes, so there would be no point to "reroll" beehives? With empty ones never coinciding with high Q nodes, perhaps...

Or simply tie the number of bees to Q node, so basic q10 hives are empty, 10 to 19 have one bee spawning, 20 to 29 have two, &c.

I'm not sure it would be a change for the better that you'd need to go mining to get reasonable flour qualities.

It'd be somewhat reasonable at least that the stone Q matters... though I agree that the need to mine can be a problem, but it seems for me that the problem is need for boulders meaning need to go underground.

It could be better if there were other possibilities to get a boulder... If free-scattered boulders are too easy to get, there are stone terrains which are reasonable places to carve a boulder. Altering the terrain (-1m per boulder?) and with a requirement of a certain strength to do so, maybe.

[jordancoles]

Best strat with this timer is still probably to just test raid the hive and leave if bees come out at all. You could find another hive within 15 minutes, anyways

Maybe the number of bees can be tied to coordinates, alike the mechanic of quality nodes, so there would be no point to "reroll" beehives? With empty ones never coinciding with high Q nodes, perhaps...

Larva quality doesn't matter at all for your first hives. The boards will drive up the end quality anyways

[springyb]

When is it worth fighting bees? Do hives have a finite number if bees that will spawn?

If bees don't spawn the instant you raid a hive, it can be worth it to try and kill a few bees. The ones that spawn bees instantly or spawn more than one at a time are ones you should avoid.