Game Development: Charter Shoo

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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby shubla » Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:53 pm

Consider dropping support for the old client? It'd be ridiculous to have another reset with old client still supported.
I think its good idea to drop the support a bit before reset so then people won't complain that they didn't have enough time to do the migration, assuming that they've not noticed the warning about dropping support in the last 2 or so years.
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby talon00302 » Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:59 am

shubla wrote:Consider dropping support for the old client? It'd be ridiculous to have another reset with old client still supported.
I think its good idea to drop the support a bit before reset so then people won't complain that they didn't have enough time to do the migration, assuming that they've not noticed the warning about dropping support in the last 2 or so years.


I agree, actually.
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby noindyfikator » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:11 pm

Consider dropping support for all custom clients, meanwhile make a default client better than all existing custom clients
W3 - W10 - Hermit / small plots with spruces
W11 - The Friend Zone
W12 - KoA aka Kingdom of Ashes
W13 - Monke
W14 - Alpaca Farm aka Animal Planet
W15 - Whatever Bay - The Greatest Siege Defense Victory in Haven History - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhyUveSeZ0Q
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby pawnchito » Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:01 pm

Yeah fix the client before you kill others. Don't force us to use custom clients that breach our trust and log our map position.
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby noindyfikator » Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:14 pm

Just look at this patch notes:

jorb wrote:"Shoo"'d animals hitting other animals will now "Shoo" those as well. Cowball confirmed.


No one even asked for such feature. It's nice to have such "fancy" things in game, but please do it when game is almost completed, client works fine, without crashes, there are no other problems etc.

I mean it's nice QoL, but I think there are more important things to do

Instead of doing Shoo to my cow to have cowball I would like to have 1 more graphic/sound/alarm etc. option in default client.
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby pawnchito » Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:17 pm

You are insane. Being able to manage livestock, especially big clumps is an absolute pain in the ass. This was a great patch IMO, the discussion kind of got sidetracked to other things though.
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby pawnchito » Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:22 pm

I just question motives behind the call for urgency to kill clients by someone who has used new world announcements to entice people into their honeypot trap is all.
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby noindyfikator » Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:59 pm

I am talking in general, devs add new features instead of fix and improve existing ones. Last patch was about scrying. Well, its nice but..

1. Does anyone even ask about this feature?
2. Probably less than 1% of playerbase will ever use this feature

Instead of that I would like to have fixes/QoL/client updates.

You know, developing a product should have phases.

1. Version 1

2. Test phase

3. IMPORTANT
STOP. We don't add new features to version 1, if version 1 has bugs, should have improvements etc. We focus on improving version 1 until all things work as expected, people are happy etc.

4. Version 2

In haven, developers constantly add new features without focusing on fixing existing problems. That's my point

Patch notes section New Implementations shouldn't exists until Key fixes and small fixes are empty.

That's my point of view, just sharing with you.
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W12 - KoA aka Kingdom of Ashes
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby shubla » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:32 pm

Using time to develop useless default client features is stupid because it will never include all the features that people want, 99% will use custom clients anyway.
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Re: Game Development: Charter Shoo

Postby VDZ » Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:11 pm

noindyfikator wrote:1. Does anyone even ask about this feature?

Yes. It was literally suggested as a solution to a problem discussed in the previous patch thread.
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