Prelude: World 14

[kirion]

Shit, how will i play WoW:WotLK and this at the same time? Time to clone myself I guess

[VDZ]

Very hyped for world 14!

• Made it so that Hunger now decays by the cube root of the effect level, rather than the square of it, causing the more powerful levels (e.g. 300% modifier) to decay significantly slower, and the lower levels of effect (e.g. 50% modifier) to decay correspondingly faster. Aiming to push functional hunger levels away from guaranteed 300%.
• Nerfed Salt such that it works similarly to the pre-W14 hunger-level scaling: its efficacy decreases on more powerful hunger levels with the square of their power.

This seems pointless (and arguably only makes things worse) if characters still start at 300% and questing can reduce hunger. The problem isn't people returning to 300% from 100% (rather, it doesn't happen which is part of the problem), it's that people start at 300% and stay at 300%, and as as I extensively explained in my C&I post about the matter it becomes exponentially more difficult to get back to 300%/200% after dropping out of those levels.

If you start at 300% and it becomes even harder to passively return to there, the best play is to restart your character after building up to recover your 300% and work from there. This is extremely counterintuitive and un-larpy.

• Added "Siege Boost" to claims.
  
  • For each level of a new ancestral worship spell cast on a claim, the claim gains one point of "Siege Boost".
  • Siege Boost acts as a multiplier on the amount of time a Siege Engine needs to effectively attack targets on the claim, where each point is an additional x0.5. E.g. a battering ram would need to wait 36h, rather than 24h, to attack a claim with one extra point of "Siege Boost".
  • The first five points of "Siege Boost" are permanent, and remain forever once added. The latter five points are transient, and decay away over a few days.
  • In summary: You can boost the siege defense of any claim, causing it to require up to 5x longer drying times on siege engines before it can be attacked.
  • Aiming to make siege of an established base significantly more difficult.

Sounds more like a 'fortification boost'? 'Siege boost' sounds like it would boost your siege, i.e. the attempt to break into a fortified area.

[trezisc]

Needs more nerfs because there might still be some people interested in playing

[The_Lich_King]

Very hyped for world 14!

• Made it so that Hunger now decays by the cube root of the effect level, rather than the square of it, causing the more powerful levels (e.g. 300% modifier) to decay significantly slower, and the lower levels of effect (e.g. 50% modifier) to decay correspondingly faster. Aiming to push functional hunger levels away from guaranteed 300%.
• Nerfed Salt such that it works similarly to the pre-W14 hunger-level scaling: its efficacy decreases on more powerful hunger levels with the square of their power.

This seems pointless (and arguably only makes things worse) if characters still start at 300% and questing can reduce hunger. The problem isn't people returning to 300% from 100% (rather, it doesn't happen which is part of the problem), it's that people start at 300% and stay at 300%, and as as I extensively explained in my C&I post about the matter it becomes exponentially more difficult to get back to 300%/200% after dropping out of those levels.

If you start at 300% and it becomes even harder to passively return to there, the best play is to restart your character after building up to recover your 300% and work from there. This is extremely counterintuitive and un-larpy.

• Added "Siege Boost" to claims.
  
  • For each level of a new ancestral worship spell cast on a claim, the claim gains one point of "Siege Boost".
  • Siege Boost acts as a multiplier on the amount of time a Siege Engine needs to effectively attack targets on the claim, where each point is an additional x0.5. E.g. a battering ram would need to wait 36h, rather than 24h, to attack a claim with one extra point of "Siege Boost".
  • The first five points of "Siege Boost" are permanent, and remain forever once added. The latter five points are transient, and decay away over a few days.
  • In summary: You can boost the siege defense of any claim, causing it to require up to 5x longer drying times on siege engines before it can be attacked.
  • Aiming to make siege of an established base significantly more difficult.

Sounds more like a 'fortification boost'? 'Siege boost' sounds like it would boost your siege, i.e. the attempt to break into a fortified area.

I agree, although this will see *some* change. Since hunger decay increases at higher levels it won't be AS cancer to get back to 300%, but you are right that this doesn't actually address the issue that most people never leave 300%... at Least salt will be less effective at 300% making it mildly harder to stay there. Making tables and bonfires also become less useful the greater your hunger level would make it harder to stay at 300% and i think if we modified tables and bonfires the way salt is going to be, then we might see it finally become impossible to stay at 300% and see other hunger levels enter the game.

[Oddity]

You should make a world-boss dragon that requires a full raid team of like 40 highly geared/statted players to slay it

[kirion]

Will we get the final map + a timelapse like at the end of the previous world?

[VDZ]

Since hunger decay increases at higher levels it won't be AS cancer to get back to 300%

You misunderstand.

causing the more powerful levels (e.g. 300% modifier) to decay significantly slower, and the lower levels of effect (e.g. 50% modifier) to decay correspondingly faster.

It will be MORE cancer to get back to 300%. 50% to 100% will be faster, 100% to 150% will be the same, 150% to 200% and 200% to 300% will be WAY slower.

[MrBunzy]

If you are reverting industry spiraling, bring back old potters clay too, that was dank.

[ChildhoodObesity]

I like the sound of everything but the hunger change I think. I can't imagine feasting outside of 300%, it seems incredibly inefficient. In reality people are just going to either quest to get lower, or eat a ton of salt. The problem with salt is that it's usually all collected up by the major factions who are just going to level their stats significantly higher than the average person. You also get less hunger if you eat a food that is highly satiated so that will likely be even more common than before because it's probably more beneficial than dropping out of 300%.

I am under the impression that you guys prefer when there's a wide selection of foods to eat but this system doesn't really favor that at all.

[jorb]

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