Nightdawg wrote:vatas wrote:snip
Two level 60 ooga booga mouth breathing horde retards ganked my warrior when I was leveling in redridge
I went there on my level 55 rogue and killed both of them, cause they're retards. Idiots that were only helped by the level when attacking level 19s, that proved to be actually mentally retarded when they actually had to fight a non-crippled human being. I was on combat pve spec, brother. I didn't even use Blind.
I agree that this game should point out that it is a PvP game, but there's sprucecaps that have been playing for 10+ years that complain about this every day and still refuse to get good. It's literally not that hard to get decent at this game, ESPECIALLY AFTER 10 YEARS. Let them be victims forever, they clearly have a fetish of being trash.
So yeah, hate the game AND the player, lmao
Dishonest take.
You can't just decide to pull up your bootstraps and "learn pvp."
You can get good at combat and practice fighting until you can kill a bear or something without even having to cheese it, but the nuances of pvp are unintuitive and not something you can learn without the guidance of a "mouth breathing retard."
Anybody who idly sits in any of the social platforms of this game know that the approachability of said retards leaves a lot to be desired. I say this with confidence because despite not being a pvp titan, I am certainly one of them.
You can't even make the argument of it being a skill issues. Hard games and games with a steep learning curve are one thing, but please consider how unpleasant it must be for the average person to have to go out of their way and approach a mouth breathing retard in one of the many dens of autism in which they are publicly available to be pinged. Even though somebody like Snail might be a good guy under his trollish exterior, consider how undesirable it must be to essentially seek out the equivalent of the middle school kid who is bullying you and posting pictures of it and laughing about it with dozens of other retards in a public chat, and then having to ask them how you can improve your own bullying skills.
This is not a matter of "difficult gameplay." This is a matter of doing something that is socially unsavoury.
Again, not a skill issue, not a matter of "pulling up the bootstraps." It's that the knowledge for getting good at the pvp aspect of this game is gated behind the entrance and acceptance of a social circle of people who are largely repellent.
The amount of people who crawl up from the average player pool and are taken under the wing of a faction who engages in pvp, and are then shown the ropes and are given the custom client are tiny. You should know this because you have undergone this process.
Sure, there might be other small groups with less barrier or resistance to entry, but how often are they showing up in pvp fights or displaying their ability to defend against autists who have extreme advantages like custom clients and bots?
PVP is fundamentally imbalanced, terrible and unfun. 90% of the reason why you even like it is because of the social aspect that it is so deeply ingrained in. You are not playing haven PVP because it is a deeply complex and interesting mechanic that is very engaging. You are playing it because you like to dunk on people who are part of the big mouth breathing circle jerk of PVPers, and so you can make memey videos.
Haven PVP is only approachable via social conduits and only exists within them. Haven PVP is only FOR these social conduits. It has no reason to exist outside them and it rarely does. Outside of these social conduits Haven PVP is shallow, imbalanced and fundamentally terrible.
You guys have fucking custom client features that help you click on rabbits to get an edge on your ability to run and drink more efficiently.
Please stop being dishonest about PVP.
Not only is becoming a PVPer nearly impossible for the average player, but the average player needs to understand that there is no good reason to do this.
99% of the haven player base is watching this tiny circlejerk of mouthbreathers laughing and making videos and foot-stomping at each other and it looks like a real riot and a potential interest for those who are not in the know. The reality is that it's just a bunch of buddies screeching and repeating single word commands at each other on voice chat while they run in circles for 45 minutes around red highlight boxes on magically flattened terrain smashing either the custom client "drink" button or the "attack" button, all for the goal of being able to dickwave at one of their buddies on the opposite team when they get KOd.
The game is not the fun part, the circlejerk is.
I invite anybody who thinks that this sounds interesting to simply lurk in discord during the first couple months of a world, watch the drama and dickwaving. You can engage in it and be part of it without even having to beg a mouth breather to teach you anything, without having to worm your way in to a social circle and get access to a custom client that gives you a crazy advantage. You wont have to log in, you wont have to have people yell single words at you 40-50 times in strange eastern european accents, you wont have to learn to perfect and memorize an incredibly unfun system of running and drinking.
You can just BE a retard and nobody can stop you, and that's where all the fun is.
Just wave your dick and be repellent. Just BE a bully.
It's that easy.
TL;DR - REMOVE PVP