Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

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Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby exewu » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:44 am

Keeping a lot of cattle is a pain, especially if you want to milk them often. The solution to this problem has always been to keep your livestock stuck in a roundpole gate. That way the cows won't be all over the place when you try to milk them. Cattle always has been able to get pregnant while stuck in said gate and as an added bonus you could place these gates 2+ tiles away from your, err, meadow's fence. That way they never spawn outside the pen.
Now this is no longer possible I'm afraid, due to some change a bull can no longer do his thing when a cow is inside a gate. Pure discrimination against bulls with a roundpole gate fetish if you ask me. We cannot support racism here can we?

Picture of the setup:
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As you can see, the cow is stuck in the gate, it can't move (much) but I can reach it with a bucket for milking without having to open the gate. If there is someone out there who's still getting this to work, are you orienting your gates to open towards the north instead of the east like in my pen? I changed the direction of my gates and shortly after that it stopped working.
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby DatOneGuy » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:16 pm

Some of mine mated recently with the same layout, I believe it's how far they are into the gate.
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby exewu » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:23 pm

Grrr annoying. I've been trying for a few days to get it to work but I just can't get them to mate. You only have a very short range where you are able to also milk them so I don't really get what I'm doing wrong. When I released them all of their gates this morning it was a huge MOOO concert too.

Are yours as far out of the gate as possible? and in the centre? Perhaps I need to put them on the sides.
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby DatOneGuy » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:28 pm

exewu wrote:Grrr annoying. I've been trying for a few days to get it to work but I just can't get them to mate. You only have a very short range where you are able to also milk them so I don't really get what I'm doing wrong. When I released them all of their gates this morning it was a huge MOOO concert too.

Are yours as far out of the gate as possible? and in the centre? Perhaps I need to put them on the sides.

I just kinda tossed them in there, he seemed to pork some of them, I guess I'll have to mess around some more and check out the exact placement...
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby Granger » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:32 pm

I think animals should starve quickly in case they're trapped.
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby Avu » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:39 pm

Trav not around so you felt the need to take the trolling for realism mantle for him?
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby DatOneGuy » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:02 pm

Granger wrote:I think animals should starve quickly in case they're trapped.

That's just stupid, if that was wanted we wouldn't have tele-feeding.

Horrible, horrible idea, everyone ignore that post.
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby Thurrok » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:31 pm

Step 1: Implement intelligent livestock pathfinding AI
Step 2: Implement easier cattle management
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Implement cows starving when trapped

If livestock updates come in a different order, everyone should expect an angry mob of farmers and hungry cows.
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby Granger » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:
Granger wrote:I think animals should starve quickly in case they're trapped.

That's just stupid, if that was wanted we wouldn't have tele-feeding.


I don't think that being able to stick cows into roundpole fence gates is good gamedesign (or stuff like trapping bears in palisade gates).
This should be removed.

I have no problem in case LoftJorb come up with something we can stick cattle in to ease milking and have them spawn claves where we want them.
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Re: Livestock no longer reachable by bull inside roundpole gate

Postby DatOneGuy » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:10 pm

Granger wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:
Granger wrote:I think animals should starve quickly in case they're trapped.

That's just stupid, if that was wanted we wouldn't have tele-feeding.


I don't think that being able to stick cows into roundpole fence gates is good gamedesign (or stuff like trapping bears in palisade gates).
This should be removed.

I have no problem in case LoftJorb come up with something we can stick cattle in to ease milking and have them spawn claves where we want them.

You know, it's nice that you always like to point out these things but you always attack the wrong problem.

Saying that they should starve slowly in gates doesn't solve anything, OPs answer solves the problem.

Cows are a pain in the ass to leave roaming, gates are our only option.

Should it be? No

Should it stay untilf ixed? Yes

Don't, just don't, ever suggest that things be removed that fill needed gaps.
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