Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby sabinati » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:41 am

cobaltjones wrote:The problem with the current implementation, is that once you've got high Q seeds (Prayer of Life anyone?) soil quality becomes absolutely useless. Planting q100+ seeds? Well why bother seeking out a decent q80 soil spot to set up your farm? Just find the nearest soil patch you can and go to town. Also, because it's +2/-5, it's in your best interest to plant absolutely massive fields in order to have the best chance of getting those few raised seeds. Yeah that sounds smart. :roll:

Either make it an actual softcap where soil q plays an important role and increase in values is slowed but still possible [(farming+soil)/2], or make it a strict hardcap and allow us a way of increasing soil quality through fertilization or another new method.

As it stands the +2/-5 situation is fucking retarded and I'm just amazed that anyone would actually think it would be a decent way to integrate soil quality into farming.


prayer of life got removed. the rest of your logic is pretty flawed as well. gg.
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby novaalpha » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:53 am

cobaltjones wrote:Well why bother seeking out a decent q80 soil spot to set up your farm?

Better soil to plant better trees, duh.
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby cobaltjones » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:12 am

sabinati wrote:prayer of life got removed. the rest of your logic is pretty flawed as well. gg.

How is it pretty flawed? Under the current system, if I've got a q90 seed, it makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE if I plant that seed in q5 soil or q85 soil. How does that make any sense at all?
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby SpidersEverywhere » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:14 am

SpidersEverywhere wrote:
Zamilpen wrote:[-5, 5] variance has been verified.


Confirmed here as well, although only 1/3 of my sample showed improvement over planted quality. Going to try again with a larger test plot.


With the larger test plot, 48% of my sample increased in quality, very close to the expected distribution. I'm prepared to call this fixed.
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby Gedrean » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:54 am

SpidersEverywhere wrote:
SpidersEverywhere wrote:
Zamilpen wrote:[-5, 5] variance has been verified.


Confirmed here as well, although only 1/3 of my sample showed improvement over planted quality. Going to try again with a larger test plot.


With the larger test plot, 48% of my sample increased in quality, very close to the expected distribution. I'm prepared to call this fixed.


From my planted seeds and my farming partner's, we're getting noticeable increases in quality overall, with minor decreases here and there. My vote's in with Fixed.
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby Zamilpen » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:41 am

Well it's pretty much a nerf to crop growth rather with the selection of farming crop location being initially important.
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby Fantastication » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:14 pm

cobaltjones wrote:
sabinati wrote:prayer of life got removed. the rest of your logic is pretty flawed as well. gg.

How is it pretty flawed? Under the current system, if I've got a q90 seed, it makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE if I plant that seed in q5 soil or q85 soil. How does that make any sense at all?


Farming on higher quality soil does make a difference, as your crop q will trend downwards to roughly the soil quality. I'd prefer a plateau at q85 instead of q10, but that might just be me.
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby jorb » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:51 pm

This should be fixed now.
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby sabinati » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 pm

cobaltjones wrote:
sabinati wrote:prayer of life got removed. the rest of your logic is pretty flawed as well. gg.

How is it pretty flawed? Under the current system, if I've got a q90 seed, it makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE if I plant that seed in q5 soil or q85 soil. How does that make any sense at all?


math is pretty hard, huh :|
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Re: Crop quality keeps dropping despite high farm level.

Postby Gedrean » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:48 pm

sabinati wrote:
cobaltjones wrote:
sabinati wrote:prayer of life got removed. the rest of your logic is pretty flawed as well. gg.

How is it pretty flawed? Under the current system, if I've got a q90 seed, it makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE if I plant that seed in q5 soil or q85 soil. How does that make any sense at all?


math is pretty hard, huh :|


No he's got a pretty big point. Take q90 seed, place in q70 soil. It experiences mostly decrease, maybe a little increase. Place in q5 soil - by logic a q5 soil should RUIN that seed, but again, same decrease, maybe a little increase. That's what he's saying.
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