The Q 110864698 Charcoal

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Re: The Q 110864698 Charcoal

Postby Lastavica89 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:09 pm

I've changed - I'm unplugged - a new man, so to speak, like pumpkin, apparently free.
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Re: The Q 110864698 Charcoal

Postby Lastavica89 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:11 pm

:lol:
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Re: The Q 110864698 Charcoal

Postby loftar » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:11 pm

While this whole incident is rather worrying and I would really like to track down how that piece of charcoal came into existence and plug that hole, I find the whole thing almost unbearably amusing. The root of the whole matter is one piece of charcoal, which gave rise to, probably, iron of unbelievable quality, which made a q8M anvil and a q20M smithy's hammer, a q4M cauldron, a q1.3M meatgrinder, and thence in turn a mountain of sausages of q-levels around 150k. I am sure someone more lyrical than me could find a really good analogy. I, myself, am lacking in words in this matter. :)

As for your questions:
1. Indeed, tea is yet unaffected by quality. That should be fixed.
2. Yes. I think that is probably as it should be.
3. The FEPs gained by a piece of food is its base amount, multiplied by $\sqrt{q / 10}$.
4. Yeah. I think anyone who has done any programming at all can guess why. Especially if I add that I didn't really plan for armors with that many hitpoints. ;)
5. I dunno. Maybe Hirdsmen's Helmets do give too much LP.
6. I disagree.
7. That's because I never care about the "nominal amount" of HP for armors. I just save the actual amount of HP it has. It doesn't usually cause problems. ;)
8. Indeed. The butchering tool, like skill attributes, can only lower the quality of the resulting meat. One could argue that the same should go for some other tools as well, but I'm not sure.
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Re: The Q 110864698 Charcoal

Postby Potjeh » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:12 pm

Tko si sad pak ti, lastavice?
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Re: The Q 110864698 Charcoal

Postby Xybb » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:39 pm

I can understand people beeing angry about us abusing the charcoal bug for gaining lp, but blaming us to attack people and making unfair trades is quite unfair as we never did that. Sure, Klaue and I aggroed people to scare them but we never intended to hurt one of them. As for JokkeL, like burgingham said: We know him and we agreed on testing our strength, so you can't take that as an offence.

It would have been probably fair to report that bug, but there are reasons we didn't:

1) The bug should have been known anyways, since there is a thread in Apples for Oranges.
2) We were curious about how things will develop and I guess most people would have abused the bug as long as they could.
3) We thought almost everyone of the "Uberchars" has abused a bug, so it seemed like a legitimate way to catch up.

To be fair, there are still a couple of Q ~1k casts left. What do you intend to do with them?
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Re: The Q 110864698 Charcoal

Postby Xarx » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:15 pm

Xybb wrote:1) The bug should have been known anyways, since there is a thread in Apples for Oranges.


You could have used that as a defence until you read the thread and find:
TheEnigmist wrote:Used it.... the coal doesn't work :( maybe it was only a dispay bug...


A weak attempt at hiding it but still trying to hide it none the less.

Xybb wrote:2) We were curious about how things will develop and I guess most people would have abused the bug as long as they could.


After it was confirmed to have worked, personally I would have told everyone rather than try and hide it like you guys did.

Xybb wrote:3) We thought almost everyone of the "Uberchars" has abused a bug, so it seemed like a legitimate way to catch up.

Stop listening to retards like Voodoodog and do your own research perhaps.

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Would a dev mention people who cheated at the game to get to the top?
Seriously get some common sense.
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Re: The Q 110864698 Charcoal

Postby kimya » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:27 pm

well at least now i know why you were so damn sure that your sausages were better than mine. the friggin meatgrinder. 1.3m. LOL
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Re: The Q 110864698 Charcoal

Postby g1real » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:33 pm

Xarx wrote:
jorb wrote:so you'd still have to eat 500 sausages


500 piglet wurts would still be a lot easier than 3290 of the old bear bangers ;)


That's 550 piglet wursts dear, to compare with 3290 bangers
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