Theres only one thing to do....

[Megge85]

The Unclear, the difficult, The unknow, all those Point's that most of the Guys complaint about, is just what i fucking enjoyed in this Game.
U start play and think "what the fuck im doing here" , and bam! u need to start using ur Braincell's.

Im so sick of all those Mainstream Games outta there, where u enjoy a 15 min Tutorial and almost saw the whole Game.
This is the first Game since Little Big Adventure 2 , that kick's my butt and i must exert my self.

[burgingham]

How did I miss this one? Fun stuff...

[evilrich]

long post.. if you dont like to figure it out for yourself, then go play something else.. considering the game is FREE you cant really bitch if its in alpha or whatever either..

[DocGreen]

long post.. if you dont like to figure it out for yourself, then go play something else.. considering the game is FREE you cant really bitch if its in alpha or whatever either..

Thanks evilrich would have been lost without this post.

[crevank]

Reasons for not playing this game:
1. Bugs...

Deal with it, Loftar and Jorb work hard for us.

2. Useless tutorial... Don't think you can even call it one... yeh maybe your meant to try and find it all out for Yourself but fuck that I'm no mind reader lol. no man would know to use a spindle root as a class of string... yeh flax or even hemp understandable but the root?

That's the first thing I figured out, and also we make the wiki very accessible, you're just lazy. "OMG Reedz? Me neva reedz"

3. The way your meant to earn points(LP) is retarded.

As someone from W3, I had difficulty with this at first but I think it's an improvement, makes things more difficult, and it cuts down on "killing everything for LP"

4. Painfully slow mostly due to the server[glitched every 2 mins, im a very patient person]

Server lag will be fixed eventually, fuck off, they work hard for us.

5. not many players and when you do come across 'em they are always griefers (which wouldnt be a problem if it didnt take for ever to lvl up).

Get off your lazy ass and find curios. Also, I've found plenty of friendly people during my hermitage, and the so called "griefers" are actually pretty cool when you don't act like an 8 year old"

6. Make ur guy from scratch try to learn swimming (why make it an option when clearly its a bad choice)-dead... again new guy thinkin wow been on all day must be able to take a boar on, wrong again... Your knocked off ur feet in one then killed... Not starting again not worth it in the slightest.

If you buy swimming you didn't read the forums and are fucking stupid, fantastic, Darwinism wins again Oh, and also, same thing with the boar. Enjoy your idiocy.

7.The party option is a must but should include something to help understand how many ppl are in your area or so... true Im in the UK so my times are diff to those from the USA or Russian parts of the world...hence i had the problem never finding ppl awake/alive/or not a griefer.

You get shit like that in every game, try asking them?

8.Game is impossible for ppl who have had a late start, so yes if your new do the following:
-load of your web browser
-enter in your fav p*rn site or roll one
-De-stress due to the following because of being so hyped up over a game
-I would do both as it chillifies you fast.

There's plenty of people that didn't start with Vigilance and all the other famous big-wigs. We're doing just fine, you're just not trying.

Reasons to play it:
1.Thought it had a good concept for an MMO

It's a fantastic concept and I've yet to get bored!

2. Different and slightly more realistic -!but to the point of a pig managing to kill a man in two shots, terrible :/...!

You didn't die you idiot, you got knocked out, get your lazy ass up and go take on ants, oh I doubt you can do that either. Been playing a focking week almost non stop and I'll admit, I can't kill a boar yet with my fists, and also, those things are bitches in rl too, you try and go at one with your fists, it'll fuck you up.

3. collecting materials for a house agreed is most taxing which i think is pretty well measured in time etc.

You try and build a house in one day with a stone axe and a bone saw, I think they were generous with that.

4. LP are great but it gets to the point were you have found all these new items and you just find your self stuck looking for curiosities and doing other annoyingly gay jobs.... keep it straight and reasonably simple because without a tutorial i had to spend some time on youtube listening to germans and some guy whos stoned wandering what he did last...

So? That's youtube, check the wiki you ass-hat. I'm an upscale hermit with friends and we still spend most of our time looking for curios.

5. The size of the map (ruined to people owning so much of it)... Fuck letting people own it let it be pillaged or don't but don't go this crazy.

The size of this shit is wicked, and I do agree, some people just have too much! D: Pandemonium >> Took me six-god-damned hours to get away from your fucking flags! D:

In conclusion this is a fucking awesome game because of the concept and the only reason I don't love it is because I'm too lazy to give a fuck. It is a must that you should take these just into consideration, this game is great, read the wiki, watch the forums, stickies are your friends. Good luck with your little hearthy life and don't be a lazy shit like me!

Fix'd

[DDDsDD999]

6. Make ur guy from scratch try to learn swimming (why make it an option when clearly its a bad choice)-dead... again new guy thinkin wow been on all day must be able to take a boar on, wrong again... Your knocked off ur feet in one then killed... Not starting again not worth it in the slightest.

If you buy swimming you didn't read the forums and are fucking stupid, fantastic, Darwinism wins again Oh, and also, same thing with the boar. Enjoy your idiocy.

Not to forget the big pop-up saying swimming is dangerous and is not advised to 100+ CON and even then it is still dangerous and not to swim when you turn it on for the first time.

[BruThoL]

For the boar part : THIS is a fucking boar : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WwK_1SF ... re=related
You think you would kill it as a noob. Well no. And it's almost the same in real life. Go find a boar in linen clothes and get raped.

[MagicManICT]

Go find a bear in linen clothes and get raped.

Bear rape... now that brings up a whole nother image that you just can't out of your head once it's there.

[DocGreen]

Reasons for not playing this game:
1. Bugs...

Deal with it, Loftar and Jorb work hard for us.

2. Useless tutorial... Don't think you can even call it one... yeh maybe your meant to try and find it all out for Yourself but fuck that I'm no mind reader lol. no man would know to use a spindle root as a class of string... yeh flax or even hemp understandable but the root?

That's the first thing I figured out, and also we make the wiki very accessible, you're just lazy. "OMG Reedz? Me neva reedz"

3. The way your meant to earn points(LP) is retarded.

As someone from W3, I had difficulty with this at first but I think it's an improvement, makes things more difficult, and it cuts down on "killing everything for LP"

4. Painfully slow mostly due to the server[glitched every 2 mins, im a very patient person]

Server lag will be fixed eventually, fuck off, they work hard for us.

5. not many players and when you do come across 'em they are always griefers (which wouldnt be a problem if it didnt take for ever to lvl up).

Get off your lazy ass and find curios. Also, I've found plenty of friendly people during my hermitage, and the so called "griefers" are actually pretty cool when you don't act like an 8 year old"

6. Make ur guy from scratch try to learn swimming (why make it an option when clearly its a bad choice)-dead... again new guy thinkin wow been on all day must be able to take a boar on, wrong again... Your knocked off ur feet in one then killed... Not starting again not worth it in the slightest.

If you buy swimming you didn't read the forums and are fucking stupid, fantastic, Darwinism wins again Oh, and also, same thing with the boar. Enjoy your idiocy.

7.The party option is a must but should include something to help understand how many ppl are in your area or so... true Im in the UK so my times are diff to those from the USA or Russian parts of the world...hence i had the problem never finding ppl awake/alive/or not a griefer.

You get shit like that in every game, try asking them?

8.Game is impossible for ppl who have had a late start, so yes if your new do the following:
-load of your web browser
-enter in your fav p*rn site or roll one
-De-stress due to the following because of being so hyped up over a game
-I would do both as it chillifies you fast.

There's plenty of people that didn't start with Vigilance and all the other famous big-wigs. We're doing just fine, you're just not trying.

Reasons to play it:
1.Thought it had a good concept for an MMO

It's a fantastic concept and I've yet to get bored!

2. Different and slightly more realistic -!but to the point of a pig managing to kill a man in two shots, terrible :/...!

You didn't die you idiot, you got knocked out, get your lazy ass up and go take on ants, oh I doubt you can do that either. Been playing a focking week almost non stop and I'll admit, I can't kill a boar yet with my fists, and also, those things are bitches in rl too, you try and go at one with your fists, it'll fuck you up.

3. collecting materials for a house agreed is most taxing which i think is pretty well measured in time etc.

You try and build a house in one day with a stone axe and a bone saw, I think they were generous with that.

4. LP are great but it gets to the point were you have found all these new items and you just find your self stuck looking for curiosities and doing other annoyingly gay jobs.... keep it straight and reasonably simple because without a tutorial i had to spend some time on youtube listening to germans and some guy whos stoned wandering what he did last...

So? That's youtube, check the wiki you ass-hat. I'm an upscale hermit with friends and we still spend most of our time looking for curios.

5. The size of the map (ruined to people owning so much of it)... Fuck letting people own it let it be pillaged or don't but don't go this crazy.

The size of this shit is wicked, and I do agree, some people just have too much! D: Pandemonium >> Took me six-god-damned hours to get away from your fucking flags! D:

In conclusion this is a fucking awesome game because of the concept and the only reason I don't love it is because I'm too lazy to give a fuck. It is a must that you should take these just into consideration, this game is great, read the wiki, watch the forums, stickies are your friends. Good luck with your little hearthy life and don't be a lazy shit like me!

Fix'd

No this is what jorb and loftar are spending most of their time on...[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDySrWMY2Ik&feature=related] fuck that. They should stick at haven and hearth it actually has a lot of potential. oh and to reply to all ur condescending remarks you boring nob and for someone who criticizes people for not reading, read the full on conv.
Btw when you say wiki being easily accesible, which one is it? the out of date one or the other out of date one? so far only been suggested two and both are out of date and have very little info in either of em.
"killing everything for LP"-grinding. Agreed such blows and the LP is an interesting concept but as iv seen so far can be unfair to the balance aka a person to start will gain LP slower due to the qaulity of the curiousity were as a person having been in the game for some time will gain a fuk load more due to qaulities almost exceeding the likes of 100+...almost renders new people impossible chances of catching up (its alpha blah blah blah heard this a million times for the past 3 years by the looks of it on the forums alone... i get it, just sayin... don't cry).
The swimming part... well noobzordeluxeV4.5 heres a fukin eye opener for ya, if ya cant swim at such a stage then how come you can yet manage to make a saw and a building in less than a day? don't know bout you but as i said with the building of the house it is still taxing for time and yet somewhat fair for a game but the swimming... why bother putting it in? i wud have thot ppl be swimming before they cud use a boat... smart ass...

"There's plenty of people that didn't start with Vigilance and all the other famous big-wigs. We're doing just fine, you're just not trying."- you absolute prick.

"Get off your lazy ass and find curios. Also, I've found plenty of friendly people during my hermitage, and the so called "griefers" are actually pretty cool when you don't act like an 8 year old""-- the griefer would be more likely the 8 year old and by your post im seriously skeptical on whether your more than 13 years old. Sorry for my lovely language in this post if you are such an age...

"So? That's youtube, check the wiki you ass-hat. I'm an upscale hermit with friends and we still spend most of our time looking for curios."- great a hermit... ass-hat? you know what don't bother elaborating on that... youtube is prob the best way to show tutorials as its well advertised, nearly everyone uses it these days, best for visual learners and its free .

In conclusion this is a fucking awesome game because of the concept and the only reason I don't love it is because I'm too lazy to give a fuck. It is a must that you should take these just into consideration, this game is great, read the wiki, watch the forums, stickies are your friends. Good luck with your little hearthy life and don't be a lazy shit like me!

Fix'd[/quote]---no, I was going to pay for a months membership for wow after all summer workin, studying and playing this game but tbh I would gladely spend more than a years membership if I knew the money was going to be used towards the lag problem and certain bits and pieces... I understand the lag due to the new back up system thing they got going and that can be tasking due to saving the whole world over and over again...

If they stop with this salem guff and concentrated on this then they will launch but till they realise you will have to just suck on this post like a dick shaped lolly pop.
P.s "OMG Reedz? Me neva reedz"<---- who the fuk were you qouting?

[DocGreen]

The Unclear, the difficult, The unknow, all those Point's that most of the Guys complaint about, is just what i fucking enjoyed in this Game.
U start play and think "what the fuck im doing here" , and bam! u need to start using ur Braincell's.

Im so sick of all those Mainstream Games outta there, where u enjoy a 15 min Tutorial and almost saw the whole Game.
This is the first Game since Little Big Adventure 2 , that kick's my butt and i must exert my self.

Jorb and loftar are working on Salem... its basically a simple version of haven and hearth but with graphics. the majority of ppl are simple these days hence mainstream games lifting off so well due to just graphics... this game only kept my attention due to the gameplay and thought behind it. I cudnt give a shite if haven and hearth wer stick men but in reality good games dont last because ppl want to be spoon fed fun...