Loftar & Jorb

[Xcom]

I don't get whining about Loftar nuking this well. It was a case of bugusing? Yep. What do you want, a medal for exploiting it? Loftar did everything right.
About "free water for noobs": yeah sure it's quite possible you would give it for free (if we forget about Ramo being jew in everything), but even little poor newbies are not an excuse for using bugs. Even "a little bit", even a few q higher is breaking the natural order of the current world, and you can't get excuse for doing that telling stories about poor newbies.

it wasn't just for poor newbies it was a community project. I don't see what ramones trading has to do with this, it was xcoms project to do free water and nothing to do with ramones being a jew or not.

he nuked the well, which was a big loss for us, and that fine, we knew it was coming, a thread on the bug was being written, since previous reported bugs through pm were being ignored, but apparently someone got there first. we tested the bug and it shifted the well to increase the q. how is that breaking the natural order of anything?

I think he is jelly cause he didn't get there first to be the only dev cape owner.

Not first pink cape this world, so doesn't count, lol. I hope Loftar gave you special fake version of the cape.
MINE IS BETTER ANYWAY.

[Lord_of_War]

How do we measure epeen?

[ramones]

I reported the bug of well sudden disappearance to devs. I hope I will get a cape for it too.

Has to be some kind of exploit of wells just poofing like that.

[Sarge]

This isn't congress.

doesn't mean a discussion cant be decent

It means I expect civility.

Listen fuckwit, nobody cares what you want, think or expect. Even if you might be an intelligent and knowledgeable person irl, your insistence to voice your opinion on matters that you clearly don't understand the depth of, the reference to, or the context of, is fucking annoying. Every 3rd post is some or other smart-ass (clueless) one-liner from you, almost always missing the mark. All you achieve is spamming the fuck out of every thread. You somehow seem to believe you have earned some or other privilege to shitpost everywhere and it is fucking annoying. Please, chill the fuck out, you're becoming a pestilence and I actually think you might be better than that.

[ramones]

Actually hes not, hes a dick to his co-villagers too and everyone around him. Probably if you call him mr-know-it-all you insult him due to his standards of his self esteem

And so many have him on ignore but i just can't stand watching so many empty posts, its so annoying.

[ginazar]

Tonkyhonk is the most shit talking Asian pretty much ever, she thinks Japan won WW2. lol Go eat some fucking sushi and STFU Tonky.

Woah, why that fury? omg talk like persons please, i like when i read topics with people who give arguments and talk like persons...

[Anon9k]

I don't get whining about Loftar nuking this well. It was a case of bugusing? Yep. What do you want, a medal for exploiting it? Loftar did everything right.
About "free water for noobs": yeah sure it's quite possible you would give it for free (if we forget about Ramo being jew in everything), but even little poor newbies are not an excuse for using bugs. Even "a little bit", even a few q higher is breaking the natural order of the current world, and you can't get excuse for doing that telling stories about poor newbies.

it wasn't just for poor newbies it was a community project. I don't see what ramones trading has to do with this, it was xcoms project to do free water and nothing to do with ramones being a jew or not.

he nuked the well, which was a big loss for us, and that fine, we knew it was coming, a thread on the bug was being written, since previous reported bugs through pm were being ignored, but apparently someone got there first. we tested the bug and it shifted the well to increase the q. how is that breaking the natural order of anything?

Emerald, you seem to be offended by my previous post. I had no intention to offend you, that's just what I think about this situation.
Having even 1 quality higher well by shifting the building spot makes that node compromised. Even if you would not ever use that water for trading. Even if it's one q higher than usual. It was a case of using non-intended mechanics to edit game variables players are not allowed to edit.
I know you for pretty long time as a smart and pragmatic person, so I am really wondering, are you so sure that one villager (xcom) won't give other villager (jewmones) a little bit of that sweet water for free to sell it directly/using it in crafting?
And you can be calm about ramones, calling trading person a jew is not insulting.

I think he is jelly cause he didn't get there first to be the only dev cape owner.

Not first pink cape this world, so doesn't count, lol. I hope Loftar gave you special fake version of the cape.
MINE IS BETTER ANYWAY.

That's sad people doesn't understand sarcasm and jokes anymore without posting smilies and all that visual shit. I guess CAPITAL LETTERS and "lol" didn't make it for you, next time I would bring more of that funny smilies.

[ramones]

Anon, I didn't take it as an insult, no worries, I totally agree with what you said. And many don't like my prices and on other hand, many are ok with them so I kept them going. After all, prices are/were preety much similar for last few worlds. And they were not fixed, preety much all buyers got better price than stated in my thread.

As for the water, if quality would be q85 or q91, if i was still active I'd stick to same price as I had for barrels of q85. Ofcourse, we agreed that we will give it for free anyway, so I fully supported xcoms project even when I was still active. I even stopped selling q94 water and told beroro she can keep high prices and I sent preety much all but few buyers of water to her, cause water was just something I didn't want to bother with. But its not like thats important.

So even as it really is a bug/exploit, something that probably shouldn't be done, is on other side similar to all the bugs that exist, like tanning bug, coal bug, oven bug etc., simply its there for everyone to raise their quality of their resource (water) for that few points. After all its node-dependant, its not like you can now find q10 water and just raise its quality to q100. And I say it because resources work in their funny way of grid crossing, so why wouldn't you be able to build a well where you find highest peak of your node.

Its just one of the exploits that is unneeded to have such fast fix, while there is tons of other things around to do, thats all.

[Anon9k]

So even as it really is a bug/exploit, something that probably shouldn't be done, is on other side similar to all the bugs that exist, like tanning bug, coal bug, oven bug etc., simply its there for everyone to raise their quality of their resource (water) for that few points. After all its node-dependant, its not like you can now find q10 water and just raise its quality to q100. And I say it because resources work in their funny way of grid crossing, so why wouldn't you be able to build a well where you find highest peak of your node.

Tanning/fuel bug was a favorite excuse of some Dis members for exploiting much more important bugs and glitches. That fact that Haven has several minor bugs doesn't legitimize using other types of bugs, especially that one leading to Q increase, which is, as I said, breaking the natural order of the game world. On the other hand, tanning/fuel bug exists for so much time and were not fixed by Loftar could mean that this mechanic is semi-intended (or the fix is too hard for such minor bug).

Its just one of the exploits that is unneeded to have such fast fix, while there is tons of other things around to do, thats all.

There are no exploits that don't need to be fixed. The question is the priority of fixing, which is determined by how hard it is. The only person who can say how hard it is is the developer, Loftar. so it's his call to decide which exploit should be fixed as soon as possible, and which could be fixed whenever he has free time to find the bug in the server code.

[martenx]

I have reported a few bugs this world, nothing gamebreaking or anything.
But I havent ever had a response from them. A little "ty for reporting" would have been great.