I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

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I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

Postby RaptorJedi » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:06 pm

I'm stuck in combat with a fox somewhere up north, in a swamp. I went a little too far searching for hemp. I'm up near the left corner of the map, almost in the red ring. I log out of the game, and log back in and I'm still in the same place, in the party I'm in. The fox is far, far away from me, it's showing up as a ?, but another fox keeps coming up and knocking me out. Logging out isn't returning me to my hearth fire.


Edit: I also can't leave the party i'm in. And I'm at 25 hard HP, the fox is knocking me out even while I'm not connected.

Edit #2: After logging out and onto another character, then logging back in on Notan, it made the fox lose aggro and I was able to return to my hearth fire.
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Re: I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

Postby kaka » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:46 pm

If you have any battle relations (as Jorb and Loftar calls them) when you attempt to log out,
your character will not just disappear, as it could be exploited to escape from certain death.

I've experienced some kind of timeout, but I don't know much about it tbh.
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Re: I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

Postby RaptorJedi » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:52 pm

I expected that to happen, I've had it happen before. The logging out in combat part to come back knocked out thing, but what was happening here was the game was (appearing) to be acting like I wasn't logging out at all. During this time, I had logged myself in and out maybe 10 times (sometimes waiting two or three minutes before logging in again), and the whole time I remained in a party with Lightning4's character, which it would not let me leave. It took me logging on to another character to reset the whole thing and make the fox stop attacking me. The fox causing me to be stuck in combat was waaay behind me, so far I that I hadn't seen it for a few minutes. It became stuck behind a stump and I left it there.
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Re: I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

Postby jorb » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:04 pm

We made it this way, as kaka says, so that players wouldn't be able to simply log off to avoid losing a fight (and, for that matter, to make it possible to return to fights in the case of temporary disconnects and such). A consequence of your character remaining in play when you log off is, of course, that he also remains in party. The time out is set at twenty minutes, I believe.
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Re: I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

Postby loftar » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:37 pm

Yes, there are a couple of fixes that should be made to improve the situation. To begin with, combat relations should time out after a far shorter while than 20 minutes in the case of no "combat activity". Second, the AI should become a lot better in many ways. Right now, the AI only "yields" if it actually tries to carry out an actual attack on a fainted player; it should be changed to yield just if the player has fainted, regardlessly of whether it is in a situation to deal an attack. Third, the AI should, of course, be provided with pathfinding.
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Re: I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

Postby Onionfighter » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:47 am

I seem to have the opposite problem. I am trapped in my cabin (where my hearth fire was), unable to interact with anything, and with buggy movement.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the land surrounding my cabin has been claimed by someone else.
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Re: I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

Postby loftar » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:13 am

Ah, that is a problem. It has long been my intention to ensure that land claims never can extend over anyone's hearth fire, but I have not done so yet. The only way for you to get out of there is to get the owner to either add you to his party (so that you can walk on what is now his land) or declaim the land.
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Re: I'm trapped and unable to return to my hearth fire

Postby Onionfighter » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:20 am

That will be difficult. I only met him once, and it was very late at night for me.
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