Kinsmanship not working on claims

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Kinsmanship not working on claims

Postby MickDick » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:26 am

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"Party members and Kins have all permissions under your claim, even if they are not allowed by claim settings."

I was, and still am kin to the claim holder. I have checked and double checked, and have been living here fine for days now, until the recent server incident(s). However it denies me this, and now, although with criminal acts i can walk around, I cannot interact with anything on the claim except the boats :( . And every time I log in I must use hearth fire, whereas, it fucks my travel weariness, so I cannot do that for much longer now can I?

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Re: Kinsmanship not working on claims

Postby bmjclark » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:41 am

You have to be marked as the colour that has permissions on the persons claim.
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Re: Kinsmanship not working on claims

Postby MickDick » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:03 am

bmjclark wrote:You have to be marked as the colour that has permissions on the persons claim.

I do not understand. But, I already mentioned that I have been able to move and do freely on the claim until server issues. And I am already kin, so whatever this color thing is it doesn't really matter, since being kin gives you full rights (besides of course expanding etc) to other kinsman's claims.
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Re: Kinsmanship not working on claims

Postby TeckXKnight » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:07 am

Being kin does not give you full rights. It may have once but it was changed a long time ago. Either early World 3 or before that. If you are in a party with the claim holder then you have full permission. Otherwise the claim holder needs to assign you a color in their kinlist and then assign that color permissions on their stake claim.

It is worth noting that if you have criminal acts turned on and the appropriate skills then you can also get away with doing anything that would require permissions in exchange for leaving scents. Even without the appropriate skills you would be able to enter the claim, walk around, and lift items up.
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Re: Kinsmanship not working on claims

Postby MickDick » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:24 am

TeckXKnight wrote:Being kin does not give you full rights. It may have once but it was changed a long time ago. Either early World 3 or before that. If you are in a party with the claim holder then you have full permission. Otherwise the claim holder needs to assign you a color in their kinlist and then assign that color permissions on their stake claim.

It is worth noting that if you have criminal acts turned on and the appropriate skills then you can also get away with doing anything that would require permissions in exchange for leaving scents. Even without the appropriate skills you would be able to enter the claim, walk around, and lift items up.
Okay... :shock:

But I cannot stress enough that I have been living in this for many days now. Whether or not I was in party, and so forth, with everyone logged out, this is the first time this has happened, and it ONLY happened after server issues, and it was rebooted into current state.

So, it is clear that I was fitting the pre-requisites to full rights to the claim before server did it's thing, but now when re-booted I am screwed over here. What am I to do? What explanation is there?
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Re: Kinsmanship not working on claims

Postby borka » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:37 am

Can you get a hold of the Claim owner to look whether colors checks have changed? (And if so do a rechange)

Prolly the rights are saved in a Database and might have been not saved properly or got corrupted. But that's something only Loftar could reveal and solve...
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Re: Kinsmanship not working on claims

Postby MickDick » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:49 am

borka wrote:Can you get a hold of the Claim owner to look whether colors checks have changed? (And if so do a rechange)

Prolly the rights are saved in a Database and might have been not saved properly or got corrupted. But that's something only Loftar could reveal and solve...
Yeah in about 10 hours or something he should get back on.

Sucks though, I wanted to go on a bunch more hunting trips tonight (I really need wool, so was hoping to specifically hunt them), but I am too paranoid to leave the stuff outside of the claim zone, so I didn't bother. :cry:

Surprise the guys with some Vapntreyiu or leather armours. :)

(I am hearing though, that the lag is very very bad, so maybe hunting wouldn't be the brightest idea anyways)
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Re: Kinsmanship not working on claims

Postby borka » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:23 am

MickDick wrote:Yeah in about 10 hours or something he should get back on.

Sucks though, I wanted to go on a bunch more hunting trips tonight (I really need wool, so was hoping to specifically hunt them), but I am too paranoid to leave the stuff outside of the claim zone, so I didn't bother. :cry:

Surprise the guys with some Vapntreyiu or leather armours. :)

(I am hearing though, that the lag is very very bad, so maybe hunting wouldn't be the brightest idea anyways)


For getting wool you don't need to hunt, just go for clovers, feed to Mufflons and shear them...

And for storing your stuff safe you can make Alts, put it in their Inv and log them off...
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