Coronavirus

[Jalpha]

Maybe it's time I built a hazmat suit.

Gouvernment supplying these to the general population,

I know I am not addressing your point however I did want to say, do not expect government to do anything for you (us) here. It already costs a lot of money for government to emplace and enforce these kinds of strict controls. Then there is loss of income from reduced tax income as small business collapses. Learn what you can about protecting yourself now before the learning curve gets too steep. This is only the beginning.

Now these psychopaths are coming for our children: they want to 'offer' them 'vaccinations' in the schools.

I suspect there is a bigger ploy hidden behind the push to ahem "lower the age of consent". The vaccines are a secondary concern from my perspective. Our tiers of society have always been medical experiments and the experimenters have not proven to be very good at what they do. Nothing is changing it is only being put on display now.

on behalf of the haven community I would like to extend a genuine and heartfelt apology to jalpha

Kudos. Removing certain stressors from my life (like Australians) has done me good. My imagination is too powerful for me to allow myself to denigrate into negativity. I've been pretty disapointed with western culture overall though it has some high points. I need to experience something to compare it with. It's happening.

It would be nice to develop a culture where people like I used to be don't happen.

[Robertzon]

Got my second dose last week, feeling great!
Can't wait to get all the benefits vaccinated people will get

[jordancoles]

Newer mRNA vaccines you might 'think' can act like retroviruses. They do not, they don't interact with the cell DNA at all, so there is no risk of causing cell DNA damage and at worst you might think, cancer.

Your strawman is burning nicely. No idea how you reached DNA modification/damage and cancer, that is far from what I talked about.

My issue is that a government that so far rigorously denied children a free will of their own for basically everything affecting their mind or body (their parents have to decide or, at least, consent) just turned on it's heels and decided that children are suddenly grown up enough to understand the consequences of being subjected to an experimental treatment, for which no long-term studies have completed (as these are currently been performed on the general population), to construct getting a legal consent to experiments on human beings, in an attempt to get around being punished for crimes against humanity.

I'm not sure what the age is where you are, but here in Canada when you're 12 (or younger for certain things through the Infants Act) you can consent to medical procedures and see a doctor without your parents knowing. You can also decide which house you'd rather live at if your parents are divorced and have joint custody, you can speak with a lawyer, and you are your own person when it comes to anything involving confidentiality unless you're at risk of harming yourself or others.

[Regnurr]

Holy shit the conspiracy nuts came out pretty hard, seems like facts set them on fire.

Okay because quote limit gonna fukk me up lets go through the list of fallacies in this bitch.

Age of consent for kids taking vaccines is such a concern!

No it bloody isn't, we've almost never given kids the luxury of a choice when it comes to vaccines in the past, already in school years, pre-school even, you get your MMR vaccine, you get your tetanus shot. There is no 'consent' here, the kid gets these shots because there is no argument that it helps them at all. As far as I'm concerned on this, there should be no reason to treat the corona vaccine any different, kids should already be getting the corona shot incorporated into their usual school shots, and it should have nothing to do with consent because they'll be listening to the experts on that (doctors).

Strawmen!

If you would actually tell me what vaccine you were actually talking about like I asked I wouldn't have to guess which one you're uneducated about.

On strawmen too, since you yourself are possibly oblivious to your own hypocrisy on using them; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

And if that isn't enough for you to use your big brain to piece together how you have been misrepresenting people, consider that calling them paedophiles and concern trolling about their connections to ze nazis is exactly a strawman enemy. Beware there is a witch in our midst!

Paedophile accusations and other thought terminating cliches.

It was inevitable that a conspiracy theorist who seems to hold anti-semitic views has resorted to calling their enemies a paedo. The funny part is they seem to be talking on the side of anti-nazism. I'm starting to think they don't actually care about calling others a nazi, but have bought into accussing their enemies of something that they are guilty of. A bit like calling the socialist the real nazi when you're protesting for white supremacy in Charlottesville, making anti-semitic jokes whilst bemoaning (in the same sentence) the atrocities of the holocaust and some conspiracy about Marxist academia. Or whatever the peasants are talking about these days.

Has anyone been awake in politics for the last 10 Years? It seems that you can't go five minutes without referring to 'duh LIBRULS' as paedophiles because name calling is all you ever offered in life.

Even more hilarious is when their own candidates either get caught red handed being sex pests or have even more circumstantial evidence to suggest that they're guilty of this, see Trump's epstein connection and these winsome comments about teen pageants in a business HE OWNED.

Not to mention he is a literal fucking crook with a criminal in fraud, and yet people still believe the GOP and him in general. Clowns!

[Jalpha]

I should confront this here and now to bury it for good because who knows what malevolent untruths are brewing in the dark corners of this community. I will make myself clear. I am not an anti-semite. The Iraelites are simply people trying to survive and make more of themselves. Like everybody else. I do, however, consider the Sanhedrin to be a collection of meddlers who have made grave errors in the past. This is not a topic I would go into in depth within this community. I got drunk and ranted about it on the internet. I own that outburst. Do they need to be deposed though? A drunk man should not decide.

I was making a lot of noise back when legalised same sex marriage was the topic on the table. I said then that it was the beginning of a downward spiral into unchecked hedonism. I said that if we go this far the next step with be legalised paedophilia. I mean with children being able to decide whether they want to become victims of degenerate adult fantasies (which is what I consider people with gender dysphoria to be) we are mostway there already.

Most of this community it seems to me (certainly the most noisy of you) quite clearly support children being allowed to make decisions with lifelong consequences at ages I consider inappropriate. Proudboys are pedos. Qanon is actually working for rich pedos. Epstein was murdered in prison so he couldn't sing like a canary. I am outmatched here. The pedos will win. They've been busy trying to make me look like a pedo probably because I am so outspoken about these plans I suspect they have.

"If everybody thinks you're a pedo you have to join us."

No thanks. Troll away. Better men than me have submitted to the tyrany of this subversive cult. It helps not having anything to lose.

The covid epidemic is part of an elaborate system of smoke and mirrors. There are a lot of agendas here etc. I'm honestly pretty bored of the whole thing which is why I stopped posting in this thread. I've been losing a lot of respect for the "little people" in society simply because of their willing ignorance and worse. More I have come to realise that they do not want or need to know what is actually taking place. Whatever. I'm not here to change things. I want to build something new somewhere else.

For the most part I ignore the mumblings of the plebs. There is little there to feed a hungry mind.

[Regnurr]

I was making a lot of noise back when legalised same sex marriage was the topic on the table. I said then that it was the beginning of a downward spiral into unchecked hedonism.

It is at this point I realized that there is little hope of ever hearing you talk about something of worth.

[AntiBlitz]

I was making a lot of noise back when legalised same sex marriage was the topic on the table. I said then that it was the beginning of a downward spiral into unchecked hedonism.

It is at this point I realized that there is little hope of ever hearing you talk about something of worth.

ironic.

[Regnurr]

I was making a lot of noise back when legalised same sex marriage was the topic on the table. I said then that it was the beginning of a downward spiral into unchecked hedonism.

It is at this point I realized that there is little hope of ever hearing you talk about something of worth.

ironic.

I wasn't sure how this could be considered ironic unless you had beef with me for unstated reasons so I checked it out. Turns out you're a right wing nutter who seriously believes in antifa 'rioting' uses buzzwords at leftists and generally despises anyone with a degree, that you probably don't have, but will lie about. The only irony here is that one of your posts referred to delusions of grandeur, which judging by your political leaning, probably applies to you realistically.

partway through this i stopped talking to you.

Nah, leftists sell a poisonous idea to the sheep of society from atop the mountain of wealth they created. Its ironic, and encroaching, which is why i wrote it.

again, partway through this i stopped talking to you.

we already have multi-billionaires spending money to destabilize the country, who do you think funded antifa riots and blm?

Good job on siding with what amounts to essentially a bigot because you don't like 'leftism', hope you grow up and out of it like most people did when they turned 25.

[AtoB]

[ Flaimbait ]

Look at who brought up all the new words.

Not even two weeks here and already trying to derail a discussion about RL issues.
And also spreading misinformation elsewhere.

For the ones capable of the german languange, here is the human responsible for the tale of everyone in opposition to the government is a nazi, spinning her tale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD366BZXgco
That she is paid by the government... must be a coincidence.

[BoxingRock]

And also spreading misinformation

There is no way in hell I am reading the novella of autism between my last post and this one, but this little tidbit is some hilarious shit coming from our resident conspiritard.

The kid who says vaccines have caused more illness than coronavirus, that coranvirus is a manmade hoax, that the pandemic simply never happened in germany, that masks and social distancing don't work and can only provide a 40 minute unlisted youtube video from a man claiming to be a doctor as irrefutable evidence.