So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven?

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So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven?

Postby donatas » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:15 am

I like them both, but I was wondering if there are any VERY similar games to Haven and Hearth, like the idea wise.

PS. I know there is an thread "games like haven and hearth", but I am seeking game alike haven and hearth, for example Salem.
Since Project Zomboid isn't alike and is more set for zombie survival, Unreal World was too text based and I would prefer either 3D or 2D like legacy haven and hearth, Terraria has too much platformer action, Latern Forge is more about fighting monster in dungeons, Frozen State is similar to Project Zomboid, but it needs a lot of work, Xsyon has issues that you can only build on a tribe area and has very grinding leveling up system, like VERY grindy and finally Don't Starve is similar to Project Zomboid or others mentioned in the list, since it has annoying sanity meter and anything can kill you.

So the alike game to Haven and Hearth I have found is Salem thus far.
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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby overtyped » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:49 am

donatas wrote:I like them both, but I was wondering if there are any VERY similar games to Haven and Hearth, like the idea wise.

PS. I know there is an thread "games like haven and hearth", but I am seeking game alike haven and hearth, for example Salem.
Since Project Zomboid isn't alike and is more set for zombie survival, Unreal World was too text based and I would prefer either 3D or 2D like legacy haven and hearth, Terraria has too much platformer action, Latern Forge is more about fighting monster in dungeons, Frozen State is similar to Project Zomboid, but it needs a lot of work, Xsyon has issues that you can only build on a tribe area and has very grinding leveling up system, like VERY grindy and finally Don't Starve is similar to Project Zomboid or others mentioned in the list, since it has annoying sanity meter and anything can kill you.

So the alike game to Haven and Hearth I have found is Salem thus far.

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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:59 am

/me waves his banhammer. :P

There's a few on Steam similar, but none are quite the same, not at least for MMOs, anyway.

There are some single player games out there with the feel of Haven. This thread comes up every few months, it seems like, though. A Google search might be helpful. viewtopic.php?f=40&t=46995 (Feel free to bring the thread back up if anyone has anything new to add.)
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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby Jalpha » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:16 am

Rust is pretty much a Hafen clone ported into an FPS environment and with a faster pace but much less content. An interesting parallel to the post someone made saying Hafen has content but lacks polish, well Rust is at the opposite end of that scale. Horses still give chicken meat for example.

Wurm Online is also quite similar in many respects albeit also under the hood of a first person view mode and with radically different game mechanics in many areas.
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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby sMartins » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:14 am

Life is Feudal is trying to copy H&H/Wurm in a "modern" game....but he didn't succeeded at all, untill now...we''ll see the MMO version, but i know already it will be another shitty game...simple market rules tell us if graphic is good, gameplay is a shit and viceversa
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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby Jalpha » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:58 am

LiF doesn't really have good graphics imo, and additionally it lacks content. Can't believe I forgot to mention it though.
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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby dageir » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:40 am

Rust is far less hardcore death wise. No perma death of a previously leveled up char.
There are frequent wipes though and some times you lose your character progress.
Like Hafen it gets boring after some weeks in and needs the wipes it gets.
It has a fun and intuitive base building interface and you can make an almost unlimited versions of your base.
Because of the new experience system it has become too grindy. Rumours has it it will revert back to the old system soon.
The old system consisted of finding blueprints and learning from that instead of an experience system.

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is the "beta version" of the promised MMO. You can play on different servers with
different people. Graphics aren't great. It is more grindy than Hafen and you have to
play this game with other people or you will go insane.
The building system is less "predefined" than Hafen, but less variable than Rust.

EVE is like the others in that it has crafting and combat. EVE is the only one I'd consider
an MMO of the bunch. It is very massive and you can do whatever you want in the confines of the space ship
and in the galaxy that is less massive than Elite Dangerous and No Mans Sky. (The two latter ones are less RPG or MMO, more like single player in a MMO universe).
You add new skills/get better at existing skills by passive training when logged off.

Of Hafen, Rust and LiF, I play Rust the most, but not much. They are all too grindy and the time invested
is just not worth it. I have been contemplating taking up EVE again which offers many different styles of play.
You can even play little and even enjoy it, but this will depend on your play style.
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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby sMartins » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:03 pm

Jalpha wrote:LiF doesn't really have good graphics imo, and additionally it lacks content. Can't believe I forgot to mention it though.


You know what i mean....if you have to code 3D graphics with effects and all that shit on a massive game you have no more resources to focus on others stuff too...moreover if you invest many money you need inevitably to sell it to not lose money, so the target will be kids....no way to make an in depth game, that 100 people will like when you need a money return.

Pls stop to put in these list games like Rust, Ark, etc....they are not sandbox MMO, they are Shooters...
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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby shubla » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:30 pm

There's nothing like hnh and there never will be.
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Re: So besides Salem there aren't any alike games like Haven

Postby dageir » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:35 pm

For those who might be interested in EVE.
EVE will be free to play from november.
If anyone wants to give it a try, send me pm.
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