So I verified....

[Kaios]

Yeah you have nothing to worry about using Enders then, honestly it sounds like something unrelated to Haven altogether if it was a preauthorized charge to your account.

[Orcling]

Just trying to connect the dots. Just a hassle to deal with.

You still didn't say if you use any custom client or not

Enders.....used it in Salem for years. No key loggers on computer. Only software downloded was hafen and ender client in last month or so. CCard was also recently replaced. I'm thinking someone saw the transaction on paypal and is within PayPal's system. Transaction was labeled as "preauthorized".

And that is why paypal is utter shit and we should move onto better payment options asap.

[shubla]

And that is why paypal is utter shit and we should move onto better payment options asap.

Yeah, and using payppal you can get your money back easy. Using some other shit doesnt prevent keyloggers. Idiot.

[Orcling]

And that is why paypal is utter shit and we should move onto better payment options asap.

Yeah, and using payppal you can get your money back easy. Using some other shit doesnt prevent keyloggers. Idiot.

Whats a keylogger gonna do with a one-time-use paysafecard code? Your mobile phone number? Call you and whisper naughty things in your ear?

[shubla]

And that is why paypal is utter shit and we should move onto better payment options asap.

Yeah, and using payppal you can get your money back easy. Using some other shit doesnt prevent keyloggers. Idiot.

Whats a keylogger gonna do with a one-time-use paysafecard code? Your mobile phone number? Call you and whisper naughty things in your ear?

Its not paypals fault. Thats like you'd be saying that poop tastes bad and this is why you should kill all people because bananas are yellow but not always.

[Orcling]

Its not paypals fault.

Its entirely paypals fault for allowing only antiquated, easily abuseable payment methods.

[loftar]

As Jorb said, we don't actually handle any sensitive information ourselves, so it is hard to imagine how your problem would be in any way connected to Haven.

As for PayPal sucking, we're still working to get Xsolla working, but the administrative part of the process seems to be taking its time.

[shubla]

Its not paypals fault.

Its entirely paypals fault for allowing only antiquated, easily abuseable payment methods.

I think it was OP's fault. Because he was stupid enough to get credit card at first place.

[Procne]

Its not paypals fault.

Its entirely paypals fault for allowing only antiquated, easily abuseable payment methods.

It's entirely the reason paypal is popular - because those methods are popular. It would be stupid for them to not support most common methods

For me Paypal offers additional layer of security, without having to submit my credit card or bank account data

[shubla]

Its not paypals fault.

Its entirely paypals fault for allowing only antiquated, easily abuseable payment methods.

It's entirely the reason paypal is popular - because those methods are popular. It would be stupid for them to not support most common methods

For me Paypal offers additional layer of security, without having to submit my credit card or bank account data

Exactly, its completely users fault if he is dumb enough to download keyloggers.