New World

[Moisture]

I dislike you now

Aww how cute.

Feel free to come back to my thread when you can actually think up a legitimate reason as to why I'm not well and truly 100% correct that a new world would be nothing but beneficial.
Until then, bye bitch.

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[Hasta]

I am literally sitting on this forum with nothing else to do, having a huge base and waiting for a new world.

All I am saying is that demanding a new world because a "majority" wants it is wrong.

a legitimate reason as to why I'm not well and truly 100% correct that a new world would be nothing but beneficial.

I don't know what was your thought process to derive your conclusion from my statements.

New world would be beneficial for me and a considerable part of frequent forum posters. Whether it will be such or not for all the players, as well as for the development of the game as a whole, is debatable (with jorb vocally insisting on the "or not" part).

[Jacobian123]

Nobody's noticed my brilliant marketing strategy though...

[LadyGoo]

Feel free to come back to my thread when you can actually think up a legitimate reason as to why I'm not well and truly 100% correct that a new world would be nothing but beneficial.

I'll do it for him:
1. First 1.5 months of the world people do not trade. Therefore, the devs loose some share of their income.
2. Some people will not return at all and feel disappointed, since they release that the new world is no different to the previous 2 and they will have to drop it 2 months after the launch. Who wants to invest time and money into a game, that will get boring so quickly?
3. Devs need quite a lot of time to implement things. We have been waiting for the combat updates for more than 5 weeks now, for instance. The devs will not be able to implement good end-game content if the world will be re-set way too early. Basically, they'll have only 2 months to do good updates. If the combat updates take that much time, I have got no illusions they'll be able to deliver something nice so quickly. More people will quit the game for good.

It is like drinking an energy drink. You'll feel more sober for a short period of time, but your body will still be exhausted and have the same issues (sleep deprivation).

[Kaios]

Nobody stays logged into the forum. They log in to post whatever they want to post and then log off.

yes that's true but when you're actively playing you are usually browsing the forum occasionally even as a guest, at peak time it's something like 200 players in-game to 60 on the forum but not just registered users, it's mostly guests

[Moisture]

New world would be beneficial for me and a considerable part of frequent forum posters. Whether it will be such or not for all the players, as well as for the development of the game as a whole, is debatable (with jorb vocally insisting on the "or not" part).

Now if you had said that before, I would have agreed because of course not every single person will like it. You implied that the majority who are still playing now wouldn't like it, when the past has shown us that they haven't been put off by it and have still stuck with the game.

True that jorb historically holds of on these world resets for a ridiculous amount of time, but there's no reason to drag this shit out for another year. There's fuck all to do but to go out and throw yourself at the first person you come into contact with these days. There's no point in being friendly and trading because everybody has everything they need at this point.

Might as well just give us another world so we can have another enjoyable as fuck load of months with the early and mid game again. That would give ample amount of time to at least come up with a basic plan on what to do with end game, and we'd all have the new combat system to play around with.

Feel free to come back to my thread when you can actually think up a legitimate reason as to why I'm not well and truly 100% correct that a new world would be nothing but beneficial.

I'll do it for him:
1. First 1.5 months of the world people do not trade. Therefore, the devs loose some share of their income.
2. Some people will not return at all and feel disappointed, since they release that the new world is no different to the previous 2 and they will have to drop it 2 months after the launch. Who wants to invest time and money into a game, that will get boring so quickly?
3. Devs need quite a lot of time to implement things. We have been waiting for the combat updates for more than 5 weeks now, for instance. The devs will not be able to implement good end-game content if the world will be re-set way too early. Basically, they'll have only 2 months to do good updates. If the combat updates take that much time, I have got no illusions they'll be able to deliver something nice so quickly. More people will quit the game for good.

It is like drinking an energy drink. You'll feel more sober for a short period of time, but your body will still be exhausted and have the same issues (sleep deprivation).

1. People buy subscriptions/tokens for more than just trading.
2. That hasn't stopped a huge influx of people from joining at the start of every previous world. Will the numbers eventually dwindle again? Yes, yes they will, and that will continue until end game is made better, but there's no reason what so ever to keep us trapped in this current shit world for another year until they figure out what to do about end game.
3. I never said they would be able to implement end game content quickly. I said give us a fresh world so that we can actually have an enjoyable time while they think up a decent way to handle end game. They don't even have to implement the end game changes that world, they can make another one. There has been no evidence that new worlds make people quit. These numbers we have right now are in line with how the numbers usually even out to at this point of a worlds life.

[Hasta]

everybody has everything they need at this point.

I believe this is the core of your mistake. "Everybody who started playing in the first month of w9" is not "everybody who plays". Some people are in mid-game right now. Some are just starting. You write them off as irrelevant because they are not very active on the forum.

I'd like you to check this thread, and this post of mine, since you have/had some misconceptions about my view on the world reset. There's also some very rare jorb's input on reasons for not resetting the world.

Curiously enough, that thread have the same name and is in the same section as this one. If only you used the search function maybe you could reanimate the discussion in previous thread.

[Moisture]

everybody has everything they need at this point.

I believe this is the core of your mistake. "Everybody who started playing in the first month of w9" is not "everybody who plays". Some people are in mid-game right now. Some are just starting. You write them off as irrelevant because they are not very active on the forum.

I'd like you to check this thread, and this post of mine, since you have/had some misconceptions about my view on the world reset. There's also some very rare jorb's input on reasons for not resetting the world.

Curiously enough, that thread have the same name and is in the same section as this one. If only you used the search function maybe you could reanimate the discussion in previous thread.

The people who are just starting are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, because as you've quite literally just said, they're just starting. A new world is hardly going to hinder them. As for the people in mid game, there must be what? 20 of them now? It only takes a few months to get to end game, even as a hermit, so they don't exactly have long left before they have to deal with the boring shit.
I also don't know why you keep bringing forum activity up. Do you think I'm active on here? Check when my last post was. I haven't been here in months. I'm only here to bitch and moan until something good actually happens.

Also you're mistaken in thinking I have misunderstood your views on wanting a new world. The only thing I've pointed out is that you were wrong in saying that just because there's more people who play than those who come to the forum, doesn't mean that they would dislike a world reset too. All evidence points to the contrary.

[Jalpha]

Should players who only log in for a while after resets really be the players this game caters to?

Just because they are more numerous right now means nothing. It might be better to attract more players who play whether the world has been reset or not.

What do those temporary players actually add to the game and the community? Maybe a couple months of subs before they quit and then refuse to play again until the world is reset?

To properly test mechanics like the stat cap I hope this world lives a long life. I will play again when I have the desire to, it's inevitable. A reset won't get me playing again.

[Moisture]

Should players who only log in for a while after resets really be the players this game caters to?

Just because they are more numerous right now means nothing. It might be better to attract more players who play whether the world has been reset or not.

What do those temporary players actually add to the game and the community? Maybe a couple months of subs before they quit and then refuse to play again until the world is reset?

To properly test mechanics like the stat cap I hope this world lives a long life. I will play again when I have the desire to, it's inevitable. A reset won't get me playing again.

Unless you want the game to have sub 200 players on at all times, then yes. Right now is by far the worst point of every world. I don't want to do shit but go around killing people because there's fuck all else to do.

Those temporary players add some actual numbers to the world and stop it from feeling like a barren wasteland with nobody in sight for hours. The high numbers of people combined with how genuinely good the early/mid game is, is what makes it the favorite time of each world for basically everybody.

You say a reset won't get you playing again, and yet here you are. Clearly non of the past resets have deterred you from returning. Even still, a reset gets plenty of other people playing, even if they do drop it when they reach the inevitable worst part of the game, which I cannot blame them for.

End game obviously needs to be fixed, but in the meantime, why not give us a new world to play with so the waiting process is actually enjoyable? A new combat system should be a significant enough change to warrant such a thing.