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Re: Immigration

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:58 am

Ysh wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:equality (no man should have an advantage/better life/more happy/etc. than another one).

You do believe that all men have same inherent potential?

Potential for what? Work? Being useful to society? Definitely not. But everyone has the same potential to be happy I think, and the world should work in such a way to ensure that.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Ysh » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:05 am

NOOBY93 wrote:
Ysh wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:equality (no man should have an advantage/better life/more happy/etc. than another one).

You do believe that all men have same inherent potential?

Potential for what? Work? Being useful to society? Definitely not. But everyone has the same potential to be happy I think, and the world should work in such a way to ensure that.

For anything. You say no man must have advantage over any other man. I know men who can run more fast than me. This is advantage they have over me. I accept men are not equal. Is this a problem to you or do I misunderstand?
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Re: Immigration

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:07 am

Ysh wrote:For anything. You say no man must have advantage over any other man. I know men who can run more fast than me. This is advantage they have over me. I accept men are not equal. Is this a problem to you or do I misunderstand?

Advantage to achieve happiness. In my ideal system, there would be no running competitions. People would generally be indoctrinated to be made happy by something, and then that something be equally distributed among the people.

I believe it's technically possible to teach a human, from the point of birth until he's a conscious being, what makes him happy.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Ysh » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:19 am

NOOBY93 wrote:
Ysh wrote:For anything. You say no man must have advantage over any other man. I know men who can run more fast than me. This is advantage they have over me. I accept men are not equal. Is this a problem to you or do I misunderstand?

Advantage to achieve happiness. In my ideal system, there would be no running competitions. People would generally be indoctrinated to be made happy by something, and then that something be equally distributed among the people.

I believe it's technically possible to teach a human, from the point of birth until he's a conscious being, what makes him happy.

Your utopia is to treat men as cattle? You have strange view I think.
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Re: Immigration

Postby MrPunchers » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:44 am

NOOBY93 wrote:In my ideal system, there would be no running competitions.

What if running competitions make me happy :?:
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Re: Immigration

Postby Teleskop » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:08 am

MrPunchers wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:In my ideal system, there would be no running competitions.

What if running competitions make me happy :?:

u lost at them haha tho
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Re: Immigration

Postby MrPunchers » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:24 am

Teleskop wrote:
MrPunchers wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:In my ideal system, there would be no running competitions.

What if running competitions make me happy :?:

u lost at them haha tho

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Various first place medals for Track from middle school (Track hasn't started this year yet and I'm a freshman so no metals from hs) I have more but I couldn't hold them lmao. Ones I'm holding rn two for 2*400m and one's for Shotput.
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Re: Immigration

Postby borka » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:07 am

shubla wrote:
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Majority in many European countries thinks that it is a bad thing and something should be done to it, such as not allowing it to happen anymore.


linking an image without any explanations of origins and making claims about majorities ...

shubs i'd appreciate more informations
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Re: Immigration

Postby TeckXKnight » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:28 am

I'm fine with immigrants coming into the US. Statistically they commit fewer crimes than US citizens though I'm not sure if they're more or less productive in terms of economic output. For people worried about them stealing jobs or milking the system, that's like worrying about a drip worsening a drought. Sure, in a small way it may not be helping but ultimately the real problem lies elsewhere.

I always feel bad for illegal immigrants. Despite what we might think, most of them do pay taxes and pay into systems like social security and medicare. The problem is that, without legal citizenship, they're not entitled to get anything out of those systems, so it's just like having an extra tax on them. With pensions going the way of the dodo it's hard enough to have stable later years, let alone retire, but without social security or medicare you're really screwed. You'll be working till the day you die just to scrape by.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Seraphimos » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:48 am

Why there is no such option?
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