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Re: Earth hour

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:21 pm

shubla wrote:Daylight saving time kills hundreds of people each year, maybe even thousands.
But it has nothing to do with preventing climate change by removing it.


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Re: Earth hour

Postby iamahh » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:43 pm

Imagine we're already living the next mass extinction event, the 6th one, I think.

At first the press will report normally but eventually I think it will go kinda silent, to avoid more chaos.

Once the global elite realize the snowball can't be stopped, they will secure their nests and embrace for dystopian times.
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Re: Earth hour

Postby shubla » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:50 pm

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:
shubla wrote:Daylight saving time kills hundreds of people each year, maybe even thousands.
But it has nothing to do with preventing climate change by removing it.


Source?

Changing time around messes with circadian rhythm, resulting in premature deaths and injuries.
Although people who die of it are usually in bad condition already,
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc0807104
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(07)02086-6

iamahh wrote:Imagine we're already living the next mass extinction event, the 6th one, I think.


No need for imagination. Multiple species already go extinct every single day. (On average)
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Re: Earth hour

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:12 pm

Looking at both of your articles, I was not able to find the precise information that daylight saving is the factor that causes thousands of death. I've even did my own research which displays a consistent symptom of daylight saving but no major impact or concrete casualty rate that is solely the effect of daylight saving and not any other independent factors. While we are agreed, that those with aforementioned symptoms or disorder are more affected by daylight saving, there are plenty of other outside sources that can negatively affected said patients as well.
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Re: Earth hour

Postby ven » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:17 pm

shubla wrote:Instead, it makes people feel good.

That is one of its reasons. Doing things because it makes you feel good is the motor of our modern conceptions of love, economy, government, happiness, crime etc.

But it's also aimed at making people talk about the issue just like you're doing here.
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Re: Earth hour

Postby shubla » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:51 pm

ven wrote:
shubla wrote:Instead, it makes people feel good.

That is one of its reasons. Doing things because it makes you feel good is the motor of our modern conceptions of love, economy, government, happiness, crime etc.

But it's also aimed at making people talk about the issue just like you're doing here.

This is very bad.
Things are bad.
Being in your small bubble of good things fogetting about bad things leads eventualy to bad things.
But oh well, why would anyone care.

I think issue is americans, people.

Both should be eradicated from earth.
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Re: Earth hour

Postby shubla » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:00 pm

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Looking at both of your articles, I was not able to find the precise information that daylight saving is the factor that causes thousands of death. I've even did my own research which displays a consistent symptom of daylight saving but no major impact or concrete casualty rate that is solely the effect of daylight saving and not any other independent factors. While we are agreed, that those with aforementioned symptoms or disorder are more affected by daylight saving, there are plenty of other outside sources that can negatively affected said patients as well.

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/07853890.2015.1119302?journalCode=iann20&
And this is only on myocardial infractions.
Its affecting in many other things as well.
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Re: Earth hour

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:55 pm

shubla wrote:http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/07853890.2015.1119302?journalCode=iann20&
And this is only on myocardial infractions.
Its affecting in many other things as well.


After reading over the article again, it refers to incidence, not deaths. There are many different complications and incidents that can result from MI but not necessary death. Confirmation that the test is controlled and independent factor kept to a minimum.

shubla wrote:This is very bad.
Things are bad.
Being in your small bubble of good things fogetting about bad things leads eventualy to bad things.
But oh well, why would anyone care.


I think issue is americans, people.

Both should be eradicated from earth.



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Do not blame the whole for the act of a group, especially in the the group that you yourself belong to called humans. They are as capable of being beneficial as they are capable of doing harm.
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Re: Earth hour

Postby shubla » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:56 pm

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Do not blame the whole for the act of a group, especially in the the group that you yourself belong to called humans. They are as capable of being beneficial as they are capable of doing harm.

I dont care if they are humans or not.
"But its a human" is shitty argument to defend against anything.
Does not matter to me. Should not matter to you.
But what am I to judge your actions eh.
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